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- Re: “北洋系”是怎样兴起的(雷颐)posted on 06/29/2007
֪ʶлл - posted on 06/30/2007
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A communication: magnificently our great Emperor soothes and pacifies China and the foreign countries, regarding all with the same kindness. If there is profit, then he shares it with the peoples of the world; if there is harm, then he removes it on behalf of the world. This is because he takes the mind of heaven and earth as his mind.
The kings of your honorable country by a tradition handed down from generation to generation have always been noted for their politeness and submissiveness. We have read your successive tributary memorials saying, "In general our countrymen who go to trade in China have always received His Majesty the Emperor's gracious treatment and equal justice." and so on. Privately we are delighted with the way in which the honorable rulers of your countip deeply understand the grand principles and are grateful for the Celestial grace. For this reason the Celestial Court in soothing those from afar has redoubled its polite and kind treatment. The profit from trade has been enjoyed by them continuously for two hundred years. This is the source from which your country has become known for its wealth.
But after a long period of commercial intercourse, there appear among the crowh of barbarians both good persons and bad, unevenly. Consequently there are those who smuggle opium to seduce the Chinese people and so cause the spread of the poison to all provinces. Such persons who only care to profit themselves, and disregard their harm to others, are not tolerated by the laws of heaven and are unanimoly hated by human beings. His Majesty the Emperor, upon hearing of this, is in a towering rage. He has especially sent me, his commissioner, to come to Kwangtung, and together with the governor-general and governor jointly to investigate and settle this matter.
All those people in China who sell opium or smoke opium should receive the death penalty. We trace the crime of those barbarians who through the years have been selling opium, then the deep harm they have wrought and the great profit they have usurped should fundamentally justify their execution according to law. We take into to consideration, however, the fact that the various barbarians have still known how to repent their crimes and return to their allegiance to us by taking the 20,183 chests of opium from their storeships and petitioning us, through their consular officer [superintendent of trade], Elliot, to receive it. It has been entirely destroyed and this has been faithfully reported to the Throne in several memorials by this comissioner and his colleagues.
Fortunately we have received a specially extended favor Born His Majesty the Emperor, who considers that for those who voluntarily surrender there are still some circumstances to paliate their crime, and so for the time being he has magnanimously excused them from punishment. But as for those who again violate the opium prohibition, it is difficult for the law to pardon them repeatedly. Having established new regulations, we presume that the ruler of your honorable country, who takes delight in our culture and whose disposition is inclined towards us, must be able to instruct the various barbarians to observe the law with care. It is only neccessary to explain to them the advantages and advantages and then they will know that the legal code of the Celestial Court must be absolutely obeyed with awe.
We find your country is sixty or seventy thousand li [three li make one mile, ordinarily] from China Yet there are barbanan ships that strive to come here for trade for the purpose of making a great profit The wealth of China is used to profit the barbarians. That is to say, the great profit made by barbarians is all taken from the rightful share of China. By what right do they then in return use the poisonous drug to injure the Chinese people? Even though the barbarians may not necessarily intend to do us harm, yet in coveting profit to an extreme, they have no regard for injuring others. Let us ask, where is your conscience? I have heard that the smoking of opium is very strictly forbidden by your country; that is because the harm caused by opium is clearly understood. Since it is not permitted to do harm to your own country, then even less should you let it be passed on to the harm of other countries -- how much less to China! Of all that China exports to foreign countries, there is not a single thing which is not beneficial to peo ple: they are of benefit when eaten, or of benefit when used, or of benefit when resold: all are beneficial. Is there a single article from China which has done any harm to foreign countries? Take tea and rhubarb, for example; the foreign countries cannot get along for a single day without them. If China cuts off these benefits with no sympathy for those who are to suffer, then what can the barbarians rely upon to keep themselves alive? Moreover the woolens, camlets, and longells [i.e., textiles] of foreign countries cannot be woven unless they obtain Chinese silk. If China, again, cuts off this beneficial export, what profit can the barbarians expect to make? As for other foodstuffs, beginning with candy, ginger, cinnamon, and so forth, and articles for use, beginning with silk, satin, chinaware, and so on, all the things that must be had by foreign countries are innumerable. On the other hand, articles coming from the outside to China can only be used as toys. We can take them or get along without them. Since they are not needed by China, what difficulty would there be if we closed our the frontier and stopped the trade? Nevertheless, our Celestial Court lets tea, silk, and other goods be shipped without limit and circulated everywhere without begrudging it in the slightest. This is for no other reason but to share the benefit with the people of the whole world. The goods from China carried away by your country not only supply your own consumption and use, but also can be divided up and sold to other countries, producing a triple profit. Even if you do not sell opium, you still have this threefold profit. How can you bear to go further, selling products injurious to others in order to fulfill your insatiable desire?
Suppose there were people from another country who carried opium for sale to England and seduced your people into buying and smoking it; certainly your honorable ruler would deeply hate it and be bitterly aroused. We have heard heretofore that your honorable ruler is kind and benevolent. Naturally you would not wish to give unto others what you yourself do not want. We have also heard that the ships coming to Canton have all had regulations promulgated and given to them in which it is stated that it is not permitted to carry contraband goods. This indicates that the administrative orders of your honorable rule have been originally strict and clear. Only because the trading ships are numerous, heretofore perhaps they have not been examined with care. Now after this communication has been dispatched and you have clearly understood the strictness of the prohibitory laws of the Celestial Gourt, certainly you will not let your subjects dare again to violate the law.
We have further learned that in London, the capital of your honorable rule, and in Scotland,
Ireland, and other places, originally no opium has been produced. Only in several places of India under your control such as Bengal, Madras, Bombay, Patna, Benares, and Malwa has opium been planted from hill to hill, and ponds h ave been opened for its manufacture. For months and years wark is continued in order to accumulate the poison. The obnoxious odor ascends, irritating heaven and frightening the spirits. Indeed you, O King, can eradicate the opium plant in these places, hoe over the fields entirely, and sow in its stead the five grains [millet, barley, wheat, etc.]. Anyone who dares again attempt to plant and manufacture opium should be severely punished. This will really be a great, benevolent government policy that will increase the common weal and get rid of evil. For this, Heaven must support you and the spirits must bring you good fortune, prolonging your old age and extending your descendants. All will depend on this act.
As for the barbarian merchants who come to China, their food and drink and habitation, all received by the gracious favor of our Celestial Court. Their accumulated wealth is all benefit given with pleasure by our Celestial Court. They spend rather few days in their own country but more time in Canton. To digest clearly the le gal penalties as an aid to instruction has been a valid principle in all ages. Suppose a man of another country comes to England to trade, he still has to obey the English laws; how much more should he obey in China the laws of the Celestial Dynasty?
Now we have set up regulations governing the Chinese people. He who sells opium shall receive the death penalty and he who smokes it also the death penalty. Now consider this: if the barbarians do not bring opium, then how can the Chinese people resell it, and how can they smoke it? The fact is that the wicked barbariians beguile the Ghinese people into a death trap. How then can we grant life only to these barbarians? He who takes the life of even one person still has to atone for it with his own life; yet is the harm done by opium limited to the taking of one life only? Therefore in the new regulations, in regard to those barbarians who bring opium to China, the penalty is fixed at decapitation or strangulation. This is what is called getting rid a harmful thing on behalf of mankind.
Moreover we have found that in the middle of the second month of this year [April 9] Consul [Superintendent] Elliot of your nation, because the opium prohibition law was very stern and severe, petitioned for an extension of the time limit. He requested an estension of five months for India and its adjacent harbours and related territories, and ten months for England proper, after which they would act in conformity wi th the new regulations. Now we, the commissioner and.others, have memorialized and have received the extraordinary Celestial grace of His Majesty the Emperor, who has redoubled his consideration and compassion. All those who from the period of the coming one year (from England) or six months (from India) bring opium to China by mistake, but who voluntarily confess and completely surrender their opium, shall be exempt from their punishment. After this limit of time, if there are still those who bring opium to China then they will plainly have committed a wilful violation and shall at once be executed according to law, with absolutely no clemency or pardon. This may be called the height of kindness and the perfection of justice.
Our Celestial Dynasty rules over and supervises the myriad states, and surely possesses unfathomable spiritual dignity. Yet the Emperor cannot cear to execute people without having first tried to reform them by instruction. Therefore he especialiy prornulgates these fixed regulations. The barbarian merchants of your country, if they wish to do business for a prolonged period, are required to obey our statues respectfully and to cut off permanently the source of opium. They must by no means try to test the
effectiveness of the law with their lives. May you, O King, check your wicked and sift your wicked people
before they come to China, in order to guarantee the peace of your nation, to show further the sincerity of your politeness and subrnissiveness, and to let the two countries enjoy together the blessings of peace How fortunate, how fortunate indeed! After receiving this dispatch will you immediately give us a prompt reply regarding the details and circumstances of your cutting off the opium traffic. be sure not to put this off. The above is what has to be communicated.
- posted on 06/30/2007
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Convincing the Emperor he could clean things up, Lin made an explosive proposal. All smugglers, foreign or Chinese, were to be treated the same under Chinese law. The Emperor agreed and sent Lin to Canton as high commissioner, with plenipotentiary powers and supreme command of Chinese forces in the city. He as specifically briefed to investigate port affairs, a euphemism for looking into foreign trading and the opium business in particular: it is rumoured the Viceroy fainted and remained unconscious for an hour on receiving the news.
A realist, Lin knew he was not only taking on foreign merchants but also his own countrymen: viceregal authorities would be obstructive, the Chinese navys loyalty doubtful and the Hong traders uncooperative.
The Chiese found it inconceivable that the opium trade was conducted with the knowledge of the British monarch and in 1830, before relations had begun to break down, the then Governor-General of Kwangtung and Kwangsi provinces had advised that the best way to stop importation was to appeal to the leaders of the foreign merchants nations. Lin, who wrote that the British are ruled at present by a young girl*, was to send a long and closed argued letter against the opium trade to Queen Victoria.
William C. Hunter, who was asked to translate the letter back into Chinese from English to make sure it conveyed the sense of the original draft, states in his memoir the Fan Kwae at Canton, published in 1882: The document was a most extraordinary one. Prominent is the bombastic style, the outcome of ages of dominion, ignorance of Western official forms through an absence of diplomatic intercourse.
The letter was delivered to Captain Warner, master of the Thomas Coutts: hower, what happened to it is unknown. The Thomas Coutts reached London, but the letter never reached Queen Victoria. A charitable explanation is that Warner transferred it to a mail-packet using the Suez overland route on which mail robbery was rife. Another opinion has Lord Palmerson holding it back.
How sad!
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http://www.mayacafe.com/forum/topic1.php3?tkey=1164902244 - posted on 06/30/2007
Extremely interesting. Too bad there was not a reply.
WOA wrote:
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Ҳתһƪղ1839άŮţעּ
A communication: magnificently our great Emperor soothes and pacifies China and the foreign countries, regarding all with the same kindness. If there is profit, then he shares it with the peoples of the world; if there is harm, then he removes it on behalf of the world. This is because he takes the mind of heaven and earth as his mind.
- Re: “北洋系”是怎样兴起的(雷颐)posted on 07/03/2007
Of course there was a reply.....in a much less diplomatic way, the first Opium War broke out only less than half year after the above letter was issued. Even if the letter failed to reach the queen, it certainly helped her admirals sketch out the warfare tactics against their merciful chinese counterpart.
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Extremely interesting. Too bad there was not a reply.
- posted on 07/05/2007
Here is another letter about Jesus-Dirt:
From Tsung-li-Yamen to Sir Alcock, July, 1869
the Chinese merchant supplies your country with his goodly tea and silk, conferring thereby a benefit upon her; but the English merchant empoisons china with pestilent opium. such conduct is unrighteous. Who can justify it? What wonder if officials and people say that England is wilfully working out China's ruin, and has no real friendly feeling for her? The wealth and generosity of England are spoken by all; she is anxious to prevent and anticipate all injury to her commercial interests. How is it, then she can hesitate to remove an acknowledged evil? Indeed, it cannot be that England still holds to this evil business, earning the hatred of the officials and people of China, and making herself a reproach among the nations, because she would lose a little revenue were she to forfeit the cultivation of the poppy!
The writers hope that His Excellency will memorialise his government to give orders in India and else where to substitute the cultivation of cerals or cotton. Were both nations to rigorously prohibit the growth of the poppy, both the trade in and the consumption of opium might alike be put an end to. To do away with so great an evil would be great virtue on England's part; she would strengthen friendly relations and make herself illustrious. How delightful to have so great an act transmitted to after ages!
This matter is injurious to commercial interest in no ordinary degree. If His Excellency the British Minister cannot, before it is too late, arrange a plan for a joint prohibition, then no matter with what devotedness the writers may plead, they may be unable to cause the people to put aside ill-feeling, and so strenthen friendly relations as to place them for ever beyond fear of distrubance. Day and night, therefore, the writers give to this matter most earnest thought, and overpowering is the distress and anxiety it occasions them. Having thus presumed to unbosom themselves they would be honoured by His Excellency's reply.
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The appeal was accompanied by a confidential memorandum from Sir rutherford Alcock who pressed for it to be taken seriously. For months, the Chinese waited in anticipation of a response. None was ever forthcoming.
Alcock, who was personally dismayed by the evils of the opium trade, warned Parliament in 1871:
There is a very large and increasing cultivation of the poppy in China; the chinese government are seriously contemplating - if they cannot come to any terms or arrangement with the British government... - the cultivation without stint in China, and producing opium at a much cheaper rate. Having done that they think they will afterwards be able to stamp out the opium produce among themselves.
- posted on 07/06/2007
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WOA wrote:
Of course there was a reply.....in a much less diplomatic way, the first Opium War broke out only less than half year after the above letter was issued. Even if the letter failed to reach the queen, it certainly helped her admirals sketch out the warfare tactics against their merciful chinese counterpart.
ʮһ wrote:
Extremely interesting. Too bad there was not a reply.
- posted on 07/06/2007
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- posted on 07/06/2007
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Ironically, the Convention allowed for missionaries as well as traders to enter China, the preaching of the gospels being legalised along with opium. Many missionaries did not approve of this and petitioned Queen Victoria to Change the situation regarding the drug trade, but to no avail. Understandably, a good number of Chinese identified Western evangelism with the drug trade. Opium and morphine - which was sometimes erroneously employed by well-meaning missionary doctors to cure opium addiction - were frequently referred to as 'Jesus-Opium'. Such was the link between the Christians and opium that when Alcock left Peking in 1869, Prince Kung told him if he removed opium and missionaries from China, traders would be welcomed.
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The primary reason why opium was not touched upon in the TReaty of Nanking was because, by mentioning it, the British government would have had to plan a future policy for the trade and they preferred China to do this instead by legalising it. both Sir Henry Pottinger, by now the chief Superintendent of Trade and his successor, Sir John Davis, tried to force the Chinese hand but failed. Smuggling contined.
Opium imports rose sharply. Criticism of the trade increased in the British Parliament. The future seventh Earl of Shaftesbury spoke for many when he stated in 1843, 'I am fully convinced that for this country to encourage this nefarious traffic is bad, perhaps worse than encouraging the slave trade.' Yet nothing altered. Colonial policy was untouched and the Indian economy was preserved.
It was considered with hindsight that the war had been inevitable. Opium was merely one of the pretexts. The British considered the issues were more fundamental and involved forcing China to open up to world trade, although Sir George Staunton, an authority on Sino-British relations, declared in Parliament, 'I never denied the fact, that if there had been no opium smuggling, there would have been no war'. From the Chinese viewpoint, however, opium was the principal cause.
For many in London, the Chinese opinion was valid. Dr Thomas Arnold condemned it as 'so wicked as to be a national sin of the greatest possible magnitude' whilst Gladstone denounced it with the words, 'a war more unjust in its origin, a war more calculated to cover this country with permanent disgrace, I do not know and I have not read of.'
Two political casualties of the war were Elliot and Lin who, in their own ways, were joined in a fight against opium. Lin was dismissed in late 1840: Elliot lasted until Pottinger was appointed in his place in August 1841.
They both made mistakes. Elliot demanded less from the Chinese than his government had instructed, whilst acting on his own initiative, and Lin failed, through no fault of his own, because the mission he had been sent upon was impossible. They were both naive, too honourable for the dirty business into which they became embroiled, and they had such forces massed against them - the military power of the British, the corruption of the Chinese government and the devious immorality of the opium dealers.
Lin finally left Canton on 3 May 1841, exiled to Turkestan.(Xin-Jiang-xw) Throughout the war, his Emperor blamed him and the Chinese military leaders for the failure to drive the barbarians out. It was not their fault: they were fighting superior, experienced soldiers and politicians. Yet Lin was humbled. He had caused the Emperor to lose face. As for Charles Elliot, he was appointed British charge d'affaires to the newly constituted Republic of Texas, a British diplomatic posting equivalent at the time to Turkestan. Despite Queen Victoria's opinion of him as a man 'who completely disobeyed his instructions and tried to get the lowest terms he could', Elliot went on to become governor of Bermuda, Trinidad and St Helena and, when he died in 1875, he was an admiral with a knighthood. Yet to this day, no mention is made of his part in founding Hong Kong: the British Dictionary of National Biography ignores the fact completely.
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The Chinese government was caught in a cleft stick. They could not eradicate smuggling for they had no operational navy and a huge coastline. Their officials were rotten to the core. British interests in India relied heavily upon opium revenues. International trade regarded it as a staple commodity. Too many people had too many vested interests. Even the emperors were hamstrung: When Emperor Tao Kwong was asked to legalise opium, he said: 'It is true, I cannot prevent the introduction of the flowing poison; gain-seeking and corrupt men will for profit and sensuality, defeat my wishes; but nothing will induce me to derive a revenue from the vice and misery of my people.' He had a personal as well as a moral interest in banning opium: three of his sons were addicts and were killed by the drug. He died, it is said, of a broken heart.
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