That is my girl! :-)
New Hampshire
Democrats Vote %
Clinton 13,572 38%
Obama 12,913 36
Edwards 5,990 17
Richardson 1,544 4
Kucinich 746 2
Gravel 50 0
12% reporting
Republicans Vote %
McCain 7,713 37%
Romney 5,852 28
Huckabee 2,519 12
Giuliani 1,861 9
Paul 1,761 8
Thompson 296 1
11% reporting
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
so sad.
八十一子 wrote:
That is my girl! :-)
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Actually I don't feel that sad. It is just that Obama is more likable, I feel.
In fact, this time even those republicans are not that unacceptable. Giuliani even claims he is pro-choice and pro-gay rights. McCain is not that bad either. No matter who will be in the white house, some change is on the way. After Bush, any change is good change. Cannot wait for that! - posted on 01/09/2008
I have no party association. If Mrs. Clinton wins Dem nomination, I will vote for her as the next US President. If Obama wins, then I will give my vote to Republican regardless who the candidate is. Romney, McCain, and Giuliani all have proven track records. Mrs. Clinton is the political designer of the 1990s "Good Old Days" and I benefited from her husband's policy.
Why I don't trust Obama? (1) He has no track records. (2) His promises are all empty. (3) He has no experience. I am not going to let this crazy guy run this country.
Some people compare Obama with JFK. Give me a break! JFK was WWII hero. Obama is what? Did he ever do anything besides election campaign?
This election is about change. Every candidate promises some sort of change. However, change can be either for good or for bad. Eight years people voted George W. Bush hoping for some kind of change. He changed America in many ways - negatively. Sixteen years ago people voted Bill Clinton for change. He created political and economic miracle, as well as world peace. That's why I wanted his policy back. - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
still counting...
Candidate Votes %
Hillary Clinton 62,009 39
Barack Obama 57,941 36
John Edwards 26,416 17
Bill Richardson 7,553 5
Other 4,994 3
Key: Red Checkmark Winner
Precincts: 61% | Updated: 10:06 PM ET | Source: AP - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
McCain's winning NH for the Republicans makes me feel better. Boy, those two priests scared me! :-) - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
八十一子 wrote:
McCain's winning NH for the Republicans makes me feel better. Boy, those two priests scared me! :-)
Not an american citizen, but the demo candidates are too radical to me, even though I consider myself pro-demo. I will not be too surprised if the demo lose to the republic. - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
I do not trust any politician; I judge them only by their records, not by their mouths.
Osama possesses a great public speech and presentation skill, a good president needs to have that, but more than that. I don’t think US is at a juncture seeking desperate change, McCain, and Giuliani, Clinton are good enough for me as far as for change, Obama is a little bit too risky, he needs one more term as senator, so that we could analysis where he truly stands.
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
克林顿或奥巴马谁赢得总统席位都有历史意义：要么是第一位不男的总统，要么是第一位不白的总统。
不过现在好象仍然胜负未决。 - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
克林顿当总统，奥巴马副总统，4年之后奥巴马当总统。
风子 wrote:
克林顿或奥巴马谁赢得总统席位都有历史意义：要么是第一位不男的总统，要么是第一位不白的总统。
不过现在好象仍然胜负未决。 - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤垮か浜哄湪鏂扮綍甯冧粈灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/09/2008
LM wrote:Yes! They should make a team!
克林顿当总统，奥巴马副总统，4年之后奥巴马当总统。
- posted on 01/09/2008
here are some highlights from NH primary. --msnbc
_________________________________________
Gender
-- Women voters predominated in Democratic contest.
-- Men predominated in Republican primary.
Hillary Rodham Clinton had a clear lead among women, getting nearly half their vote. Barack Obama had about as strong an advantage over Clinton among men. Women made up more than half of voters in the Democratic contest.
Among Republicans, John McCain had a slight edge among both sexes.
Ideology
-- Just over half of those voting Republican called themselves conservative.
-- About as many voting Democratic called themselves liberal.
Independent voters
-- More independents voted in Democratic primary than in Republican.
-- Independents in New Hampshire can vote in either contest.
These voters comprised about four in 10 voters in each party’s primary Tuesday. Barack Obama had nearly half their support to lead Democrats, while John McCain led Republicans with more than a third of their backing. The two men also did well among independents in Iowa, where those voters are a much smaller share of the vote. In a possible litmus test of where the excitement is this year, about six in 10 independents opted to vote in the Democratic contest.
Timing of decision
-- Nearly half of voters say they decided in past week whom to support.
Feelings about candidates
-- Eight in 10 voting Democratic strongly favor their candidate.
-- Two-thirds of those voting Republican feel strongly about their choice.
More than half of Democrats said they were looking for a candidate who could change politics. As in Iowa, Obama got the biggest part of that group, more than half. One in five Democrats said they wanted a candidate with experience, a group Clinton was carrying overwhelmingly. Clinton and Edwards were tied among those seeking an empathetic candidate.
The top qualities Republicans were seeking in a candidate was one who shares their values, and one who is authentic. Romney was the big leader among those naming values, McCain among those seeking a candidate who says what he believes. McCain had a slight edge with those who most value experience.
Feelings about President Bush
-- Democratic primary voters much more negative than Republican voters positive.
-- Fully two-thirds of those voting Democratic angry with Bush administration.
-- Fewer than 10 percent of those voting Republican enthusiastic for Bush.
-- 40 percent of those voting Republican satisfied with administration.
Young voters
-- Obama had more than a 2-to-1 lead over Clinton among under-30 Democratic voters, and a healthy lead among those under age 45. Clinton did better among those who are older.
-- Romney, McCain and Paul were about evenly splitting the youngest voters, while McCain and Romney battled for the lead among the oldest.
Most electable
-- Republicans viewed McCain as their most electable candidate.
-- Obama was the choice for Democrats.
Negative campaigns
-- Romney was seen as having run the most negative GOP campaign.
-- Clinton was seen as having the most negative Democratic one.
Issues
About one-third of Democrats named the economy and Iraq as the top issues facing the country, followed by health care. Voters naming the economy were split about evenly between Obama and Clinton, but Obama led among those naming the other two issues. That’s a disappointment for Clinton, who has made health care a signature issue for years.
Republicans were split roughly evenly in naming the economy and Iraq as the nation’s top issue, with illegal immigration and terrorism close too. Romney had a big lead among those naming immigration, while McCain led on the other issues.
Eight in 10 Republicans, and slightly fewer Democrats, say they are worried about another terrorist attack in the U.S. Republicans expressing worry were split about evenly between McCain and Romney. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani got only about one in 10 of their votes — a poor showing for a candidate who has made battling terrorism a premier issue. Obama and Clinton split the worried vote about evenly.
Bill Clinton for president?
-- One in three Democrats said they would have voted for Bill Clinton had he been on Tuesday’s ballot. Half of them are currently supporting his spouse.
Iraq war
-- Democratic primary voters were pretty evenly split.
-- Half want withdrawal as soon as possible, half want timetable.
-- A third of Republican primary voters strongly approve of Iraq war.
-- At least another third somewhat approve.
Religion
-- About a fifth of New Hampshire GOP voters said they were born again or evangelical voters, compared to six in 10 in last week’s Iowa Republican caucuses.
Huckabee had roughly a third of the support of evangelicals on Tuesday, giving him a slight edge over McCain and Romney. Among those who said they were not evangelical or born again, McCain led with roughly four in 10 of them. That gave him a slight edge over Romney and a big one over Huckabee, who was supported by less than one in 10. McCain was leading Romney with those who said it mattered that their candidate share their religious beliefs. Romney’s Mormonism has alienated some voters, previous polls have showed.
Party wings
-- Obama had a slight lead over Clinton and a large one over Edwards among liberals, who comprised more than half of Democrats. Obama had a larger advantage among moderates.
-- Romney had a slight edge over McCain among conservatives, who made up just over half of Tuesday’s GOP voters. But McCain had an almost 2-to-1 lead among moderates.
Worries
-- 75 percent of Democratic primary voters fear another major terrorist attack.
-- Virtually all those voting Democratic worry about direction of economy.
-- Republican primary voters bit more worried about terrorism, less about economy.
-- 90 percent of Democratic primary voters think economy not so good, or poor.
-- Republican primary voters split between positive/negative views of economy.
Primaries too soon?
-- About 40 percent of voters in each contest think the primaries were too early this year.
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
八十一子 wrote:
That is my girl! :-)
老八，还妇女支持妇女呢，以为选妇联主任哪。;-)
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
昨天的结果不错，跟我想象的比较接近。 - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
苦瓜 wrote:
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
Who is this 苦瓜? :) - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
The one from CND?
令胡冲 wrote:
苦瓜 wrote:Who is this 苦瓜? :)
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
85er wrote:
Hobo?
Can't be. This 苦瓜 made impressively convincing points - down-to-the-ground political points. I never noticed this guy or girl in CND. :)
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
令胡冲 wrote:
85er wrote:Can't be. This 苦瓜 made impressively convincing points - down-to-the-ground political points. I never noticed this guy or girl in CND. :)
Hobo?
这话我得引下来，看着看着就想假装谦虚一下，呵呵。
我当年跟你当过一次同一井底之蛙，可记得？哎，忘了也好，这乱哄哄的世界。
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
昨晚看电视上竞选时刚好随手翻书，忽然看到曹聚仁引用于右任的一首诗，让我大笑。诸位看竞选容易上火，此诗可为良药。
“风虎云龙亦偶然，欺人青史话连篇；
中原代有英雄出，各苦生民数十年。” - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/10/2008
有点意思--
网路茫茫Hobo迷，误将李逵当李鬼
闲坛哄哄令狐乱，不知凉瓜是苦瓜
令胡冲 wrote:
苦瓜 wrote:Who is this 苦瓜? :)
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
- Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/11/2008
苦瓜 wrote:
八十一子 wrote:老八，
That is my girl! :-)
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
一句话就不给饭吃，还让不让人活了？ :-) - Re: 鍏嬫灄椤�(D)鍜岄害鑲�(R)鍦ㄦ柊缃曞竷浠�灏旇儨鍑猴紒posted on 01/11/2008
八十一子 wrote:
苦瓜 wrote:一句话就不给饭吃，还让不让人活了？ :-)
八十一子 wrote:老八，
That is my girl! :-)
冲你这句话，下次来加州你自己吃食堂去吧。
是不是只要是姓李的教授到弯曲苦瓜都请吃了？
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