看看欧洲是如何通过媒体炒作来达到全民科普目的的。
时间的前方有如此多的黑洞,不明白有些人怎么还会迫不及待地寻死觅活。
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4682260.ece
Large Hadron Collider will not turn world to goo, promise scientists
Joanna Sugden
Cancel your plans for next Wednesday, it could be your last day on Earth. Or could it?
If you believe a vocal lobby of doomsayers, at the flick of a switch on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) next week the world will be consumed from the inside out and turned to a pile of grey goo. Yesterday their apocalyptic warnings were challenged by a report from the scientists behind the project outlining just how safe it is to recreate the Big Bang under the France-Switzerland border.
The Large Hadron Collider - the atom-smashing machine built underneath the Alps - has sent more internet-based harbingers of doom into a spin than it will have atomic particles whizzing around its 17-mile circumference when it is put into action next week. They fear that the energies released will be so powerful that a runaway black hole will be created that will engulf the planet or produce “quantum strangelets” transforming the Earth into a dead lump of “strange matter”.
So worried are they about the impending end of the Universe that they have been to court to try to stop it.
Their objections have been so vehement that the scientists behind the LHC have published a report to allay their fears and convince them that the world will carry on as normal after the biggest and most powerful atom collider ever built is turned on in Geneva.
“Nature has already conducted the equivalent of about a hundred thousand LHC experimental programmes on Earth – and the planet still exists,” the report says.
Just outside Geneva, 300ft below ground, the LHC will blast atomic particles around its circumference approximately 11,200 times every second, before smashing them headlong into one another.
Scientists have been using particle collision devices for 30 years without incident but concerns have arisen over the LHC because of its size and power.
The report was written by five CERN physicists, who were told to review a safety assessment written by colleagues in 2003 that also gave the project the green light.
The LHC is to start unleashing a beam of protons in the first stage of its commissioning process on Wednesday. Two parallel beams of particles, pulsing around the underground ring in opposite directions, will be bent by superconducting magnets at four points to cause them to collide. Detectors in the giant chamber will record the resulting sub-atomic debris.
This invisible rubble could help to resolve some of the biggest questions in physics such as the nature of mass, the weakness of gravity and whether, as some suggest, dimensions exist beyond our own. The new Safety Assessment Report, published by the Institute of Physics in London, says that any black holes produced by the collider would be “microscopic” and would decay almost immediately because they would lack the energy to grow or be sustained.
“Each collision of a pair of protons in the LHC will release an amount of energy comparable to that of two colliding mosquitoes, so any black hole produced would be much smaller than those known to astrophysicists,” it says.
As for the hypothesised “strange-lets”, the report referred to data from the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider at the Brookhaven National Laboratory, New York, to say that these would not be produced by collisions in the LHC.
France has also asked its Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN) to carry out a safety appraisal of the collider.
The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg rejected a last-ditch legal attempt last month to stop the LHC. The suit had been filed by a group of European citizens, led by a German biochemist, Otto Rössler, of the University of Tübingen.
He had deduced that it would be “quite plausible” to conclude that black holes resulting from the collider experiment “will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside” across a devastating four-year period of decay.
The saner voice of science is shining through, however, as Valerie Jamieson, deputy features editor of New Scientist, explains on her blog.
“Scale the cosmic ray sums up to cover the 100 billion stars in the Milky Way and the 100 billion galaxies in the visible Universe and you find that nature has already made the equivalent of 1,031 LHCs. Or if you like, 10 trillion LHCs are running every second. And we’re still here.”
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Have your say
i think scientists should stop trying to reacreate the big bang because half of us are still children and want to live life you scientists should stop for everyones safety think about the babies that are being born maybe they won't know whats going on but they still exist so stop for everyones sake.
Bethany-Jo, middlesbrough,
oh god..what is all this??i dont want to end of world like this..im still young and didnt get married yet!no no no no...please cancel the damn project for our nature..
afif, taiping, malaysia
Biochemist Otto Rössler has deduced that it would be “quite plausible” to conclude that "black holes will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside”
...Yeah that's why he's a biochemist. If 10,000 of the worlds most intelligent scientists are wrong then the world might as well end.
Andy, Wrexham,
They say that if this experiment goes ahead it could cause little holes that over the next four years will get bigger and bigger and it will be the end of the world and four years from now is 2012 and the would is supposed to end 21st December 2012 so maybe this is the start of the world ending
stephanie, colchester, essex
I can understand why some people my think this is a great idea but i personally think its to big a risk to take
stephanie, colchester, essex
OH goody.... does that mean i wont have to pay the insane costs for maintennance for my car at the local dealership???
:)
then again, dont be supprised if the crime rates go up on tuesday night, with everyone betting on there being no wednesday....
simon, norwich,
I don't get why they have to put humanity in jeopardy just to find something out that scientists found out years ago. they have to understand that if we all die they die with us.
Tom Cunningham, Leeds, UK
Im really scared of this, im only 13 and im seriously worried that this may end the world. My geography teacher told me about this and said that we probably will die. Plus if people are dying all over the world like africa why should money go to this and not these countrys in poverty?
Teighan Brown, Rosyth, Scotland
i'm just cofused at WHY they would want to risk BLOWING UP THE EARTH, just so we know how the big bang happened. no-one really cares, it's something we can always save as an unknown mystery, we dont need to put the world in jepoardy for it.
Hannah, Maidstone, England
I'm sure the results will raise more questions than they answer. I'll be interested to see what happens, (it won't be the end of the world), though I do wonder how funding can be raised for something like this.
If a medical project could attract similar backing we could see a cure for cancer.
Paul, Liverpool,
at the end of the day(wednesday)there is a CHANCE it could happen!!!they even said that..so all you nutty students..take note..i hope some one stops it TOMMOROW before they get chance
warren, burnley, england
Scientists doin research?Do they survieve after the lounch?Y scientists want to kill themselves.India got N-deal today.Give us some time to implement it.Y you ppl living in hurry?
Kharvi,Eshwar, Bangalore, India
If we banned science every time some religious zealots said it would destroy the earth we would still be living in caves. Yet history has shown it is much more likely we will destory the earth because of a religious war. Does that mean we should ban religion?
Rick, Helsinki, Finland
does this mean we can cancel the london olympics?
mark, st. neots,
I don't want to do a bunji jump, I don't want to go on an aeroplane. I am happy with my life. Why am I being forced to partake in this experiment of no relevance to me? Its like being kidnapped by drunks for a joy ride. How dare these pro science people threaten this beautiful planet with death!
keith Bentham, Wigan, uk
this is the 2012 Mayian calendar
fred, Sarasota vgffft, USA
Look im 14. I'v been looking at this ever since i heard about it and as long as there is the smallest chance that we could be wiped out because a couple of guys want to know how protons work ( this will probably be put to use in some of weapon, atoms were) then the "experiment should not go ahead.
Darren, Keighley, England
I think that many of the comments here prove one thing absolutely - that our level of science education is woefully inadequate. Odd that people who would be ashamed to be illiterate are quite happy to be wholly ignorant in the sciences.
Ruth , Glasgow, Scotland
First of all, please relax, this media frenzy has no basis in reality. The theories that predict black hole formation also requires that they evaporate.
The "first-run" this Wednesday will only be at 450GeV, the same energy that the Tevatron in the US is running at.
Max energy is 14000 GeV.
Morten Dam Joergensen, Copenhagen, Denmark
I agree with Hollie on this one!! I mean I am only 15 and would like to actually LIVE to do MY GCSE's in a years time! So why now? I think these scientists should put themselves into ordinary people's shoes and stop and think about what they are about to do!! Stop and think before u do it!
danni, essex, england
Why launch this stupid machine to explore outer space if theres a chance we'll all die and you wont get any information back whats the point. Why endanger everyone elses lives to find out information about that other galaxies that wont effect us and arent important to us in any way. You are selfish!
Luisa, London, England
There is no religious response because they do not understand.The big bang makes the existence of god more certain, but how is a problem we will never answer because we will never know what existed before the big bang.We might be the result of some kids chemistry experiment-that went wrong .
ged, manchester,
Further to M.BEds I don't think we would have had the modern world or the LHC if 'word fascists' had been around at the start of the industrial revolution. In those days there was no clear standard of spelling....and you had to actually think about what had been written because of this.
kevin, Lincoln, UK
If this proves there may be other dimensions, who's to say God isn't in one of them?
This is the machine's 1st run - no low energy testing!
Keep your fingers crossed!
Darren Ward, Manchester, UK
Re. the comments about 14 year old's spelling - it is possible to be both gifted and learning disabled. Einstein is thought to have had high functioning autism/Asperger's, Issac Newton, Henry Cavendish, Nicola Tesla etc. Although, having Asperger's doesn't mean you are learning disabled.
M, Beds,
Maybe this is how it works - big bang , expansion , creation of the universe , millions of years , evoloution , intelligent life , scientific experiments , big, human made crunch , big bang ,ad infinitum .
see you thursday ,or next time .
jonathan charles gale, lymington, hants
I am sure that I read in The Times we had built one at Harwell a long time ago and that it is in use and I know I am still here.
Desi, Eastleigh,
How many mistakes are made before the scientists get it right? May we only have one chance to get it right this time?
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
I would like to hear Prof' Stephen Hawkin's views on this one.
jon bate, derby, uk
I don't think they should do it. What is more importent living or recreating the big bang.? I no what i would choose.
I am only 14 and have got a whole life ahead of me im abolutly scared to death of what they are going to be doing. They need to stop and think befor they do this.
Hollie, Sheffield, England
To be honest, I'm not sure what to think. I don't really ask questions to myself about how I think the universe was created because I have faith and that's what I believe about creation. I'm curious nonetheless as to what will happen. Peter, I agree with you about the athiest argument
Susan, Kent, UK
Wow! So much negativity, so many closed minds. Isn't anyone interested, or doesn't anyone care, about all the possibilities and what we (the human race) will find out after this fascinating experiment? Go for it, prove the creationists wrong!
Chas, Hong Kong,
How come this LHC has been going on for the best part of 30 years and only now do we learn about it? And if it doesnt work what happens to all our money? As for the black hole occurence I dont think its too much to worry about due to the fact that in space particles collide like this everyday anyway
Simon, Omagh, Northern Ireland
Why has there been no public response from major religious leaders in the world? Surely this experiment reinforces the Atheistic anticreationism argument.
Nobody has explained what practical benefit this very expensive experiment has for mankind apart f rom satisfying scientists unending curiosity
peter, Worthing,
According to Professor Brian Cox ( BBC 4 the Big Bang Machine'), String Theory is an intriguing but unprovable concept, a mathematical description akin to philosophy or religion. And maybe the Large Hadron Collider the 21st Century's virtual answer to the building of the Babel Tower.
Margaret d'Armenia, Crouch End , England
To prophecy doom is a hidng to nothing. They can only be proved wrong. We will never know if they are right, so what's the point?
Charles Bockett-Pugh, Sandhurst,
Let's be honest, it will probably break down and they won't even get halway there. Worst case scenario there's a big explosion and the alps will turn into caves but I don't ski so I don't care.
Just in case though I'll pray in every religion on wednesday night to hedge my bets! :)
Alex K, Manchester, UK
I'm amazed of the arrogance of so many people on this whole issue and many others like it. In this case it's the "How do the scientists KNOW it can't kill us?" club. These people have no clue of physics except what they hear on the sci-fi channel! No knowledgeable voice has voiced any risk!
Nova, Farnham, United Kingdom
The press are terrible at science. Half of press articles refer to obscure Classical texts or quote Shakespeare in a bid to sound clever, but the moment it's a scientific article, do I see any data anywhere? Any mean or variance? No! Without such information, the article is practically meaningless!
Natalie, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom
Firstly, being a university physics student I know several people with poor spelling but who are brilliant physicists!
As for the LHC, I'm not sure - I don't have the years of research experience the experts have so I can't possibly give a justified comment... but scientists ARE wrong sometimes.
Charlotte, London,
Well,We must to respect the dark side of the force,let Dart Vader's black star project free run....
Agustin Garcia, Chihuahua, Mexico
Hey Ben in Sydney, you keep on researching, stick in and I hope in years to come you will not only post comments, but articles based on your findings re. this subject...well done on your post...don't be put off by mealy-mouthed shrivelled- minded persons who haven't even commented on the subject.
Peter, Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Maybe the posters on this blog who DO understand the physics/statistical relevance of the various possible outcomes/effects of the LHC should not just insult and talk down to those who don't understand/agree but instead engage and educate them. You might even learn a thing or two yourself.
Dr. Dave, Picayune, U. S. A.
All those billions of stars out there and we have not meant any alient lifeforms, maybe every civilisation snuffs itself out with a blackhole before becoming truly space faring.
I think I know what killed off the dinosaurs!
Kris, london,
Andrew, 0.5% would be a massive story! The thing is that we are talking a chance far far less than several orders of magnitude less than that.
That scientist wasn't talking in hyperbole when he suggested the LHC had the same chance of creating a fire-breathing dragon.
Daniel, Newcastle,
Don't Worry....
Where there's blame....There's a claim!!
G Wight, Elgin, Moray
Even if there is a 0.5%chance of starting an uncontrollable black hole this is far too great a risk to be taking!
Andrew, Surbiton,
But what about a terrorist attack !!!
Lee, Windsor, UK
And what worries ME is that grown men and women seem to think it's okay to gang up on a fourteen year old who is at least showing an interest in current affairs. More than I can say for a lot of fourteen year olds I know.
But this is all beside the point: all hype, world not going to end, etc, etc.
Liz, Norwich,
Scientists have identified dark matter, strange matter and the like (30% of matter, I'm told). Therefore "Natural LHC's" probably do manage to make something...
If strangelets theoretically exist, how long before scientists try to prove it? I hope they aren't trying to prove it here on earth.
Russ, brentwood, UK
It's a fast death with the possibility of great benefits to mankind with Science
OR
A slow death with no benefits to mankind with Religion.
Take your pick.
Kazuki, Tokyo, Japan
@Colin Burns,
Recreate the Big Bang with impunity? It would take all the mass-energy (including the dark variety) in the entire universe to do that. Get a grip.
jim, Santa Fe,
Scientists just dont know when to stop do they? Forget about hugh lumps of rock hitting the earth, its the human race destroying ourselves that we have to worry about! even if it doesn't create a gaping black whole this time, they won't be happy until they do create something that destroys us!
Jay, Leicester,
What worries me most is that a 14 year old - presumably one of the next generation of scientists - can write two and a half lines on the subject and make six spelling mistakes, to say nothing of a total lack of grammatical construction. Now that's REALLY scary...
Mark Coleman, Stockton on Tees, UK
>> Scientists find truth - real, objective truth .... That is what people are scared of. <<
Not me! I'm much more scared of dying without finding out why we are here and how we got here, and if this experiment helps to shed light on the reasons, I say bring it on!
Bel, London,
I would laugh if they forgot to put an " off " button on the machine.
Will, Grimsby,
Thank you, Ben, I am mighty relieved to have your assurance on this. But shouldn't you learn to write and spell before embarking on such a complicated piece of reshurch?
Dick Pyle, Barran, France
A likely story.
John Polenski, Tokyo,
>if there's even a 1 in 50 million chance that a black hole could form, then thats just over three times as unlikely as winning the lottery, and that happens doesn't it?<
Spot the fallacy! The probability of *someone* winning the lottery is close to 1.
Allen, London,
Wow. So we could have fire breathing dragons wandering around Switzerland after Wednesday! Hope they like chocolate...
Rick, Surrey,
My worry is that there are only a tiny handful of people who (claim to) understand what is going on in the LHC. A degree of scepticism about the assurances they provide is surely justified. Any risk of oblivion, however miniscule, cannot be justified in the name of scientific progress.
Jamie, Gibraltar ,
Hey Mike, just wait till anthropomorphic global warming comes along like increased farming yields, insect resistant crops and reduced deaths from scientific measures to control flooding and then we'll see what happens to random commentators credibility.
Ben, Brisbane,
Colin. Which other foolhardy risks would you rather mankind had not taken? Vaccination? Water purification? Education? Electrical engineering?
Stuart, Chichester, UK
What is frightening is the assumption from laymen that because scientists are open about what they don't know (and seek to find out) that this corresponds to them not knowing what they are talking about.
Kelvin, Gloucester, UK
I agree that the hype is ridiculous. I saw a whole page on this in the Daily Wail yesterday; it would have been front page if they could blame the gov. I have had a running joke with colleagues on the doom story; this piqued their curiosity about particle physics and so they learnt something new.
Salv Reina, London,
I'm just wondering:
What has a US court to say in the EU?
(If I read it correctly)
It's a European experiment, if its "OK'd" in the EU it should be carried out.
If the US isn't happy about it, who cares?
This should be European (!!) science at its best!
Good luck!
D.C.M., Sunderland,
I'm not an expert at science being an A level chemistry student, but if there's even a 1 in 50 million chance that a black hole could form, then thats just over three times as unlikely as winning the lottery, and that happens doesn't it? And this is based on THEORY! If it doesnt work, then what??
cassandra, Northampton,
I would expect a 14 year old to learn to spell before doing any 'resurching'
Chris, Camberley, UK
What the report doesn't say is that there is a lot we don't know about earth and the protection it provides us. We know we have an ozone layer and a magnetic field that protects us from the sun's radiation. How do they know there is no similar protection against cosmic rays???
To many unknowns.
David, quebec, Canada
The thing that always amazes me with such articles is that they fail to mention cosmic rays - these rays are constantly bombarding the Earth - and as such, you - with energies much higher than anything which will be created in LHC. Typical scaremongering of scientifically illiterate.
Neil, Exeter,
request to the Times online. Can you please leave this comment board up until AFTER wednesday so we can laugh at the doomsdayers and start discussing the actual topic : the higgs boson.
go to wiki and look up large hadron collider.
Steve, Dresden ,
There have always been well read people with a detached slightly cynical view The atom smashing maniac not always a geek but people who should know better is a new phenomenon, not content with a letter to the press, but iconoclastic bombast and physical mayhem on the slightest pretext. Re bearskins
ged, manchester,
Only someone from Australia would speak of global warming as if it a lie which totallly reinforces the point I was going to make. Journalists do not understand science but they know how to sell papers hence the reason why they give AGW deniers a lot of airspace, its maverick time.
Pete Best, Northampton, UK
The world has a history of Atom smashers, the LEP was the previous one at CERN and it was not that less powerful as it was contained in the same ring. Its advances in electro magnetics that is allowing to new one to be more powerful. All hail the Higgs Boson.
Pete Best, Northampton, UK
How can anyone know for sure the outcome of this experiment and that it is safe? If there is a chance of something threatening our existence however ''infinitesimally small” that threat may be, why should we take the risk? Scientist can & do make mistakes what if they have got it wrong this time?
Jane Lawrence, TELFORD, UK
Funny how those - like Mike Wilkes in Brisbane - who question the 'credibility' of scientists, are nevertheless more than happy to use the fruits of scientific progress every single day of their lives - telephones, cars, modern medicine, even the computers on which they espouse their garbage.
ben, london, UK
Haha!! If you think science and scientists aren't valued, just try being an engineer!
Martin, Newmarket, Suffolk
Anybody who truly understands what is happening will agree that these fears are completely ludicrous
Rick, Didcot, UK
Scientists find truth - real, objective truth - much more powerful and destructive to many people than an Earth-eating black hole. That is what people are scared of.
They might pretend that they like him now, but they've never really forgiven Galileo you know.
Steve, Altrincham,
i am a 14yeared old student reshurching this topic and think it is a possibiltily it could go wring but we are in safe hands of experinced men and wimen so dont worry!
ben flimsion, sydney, austraila
Just wait until anthropomorphic global warming goes the way of Mathusian famine, nuclear winter, acid rain and the Y2K bug and then see what happens to scientists' credibility.
Mike Wilkes, Brisbane, Queensland
Re last post. But you have helped the debate move on. The characters limit is frustrating, symptomatic of today's soundbite society. Let's have a proper debate. If there is a body of opinion in the world that feels the risks are too great, science has a responsibility to guarantee Earth's survival.
Colin Burns, Ayr, South Ayrshire
As a scientist friend tried to explain, *if* the science that says it could create minute short-lived black holes is right, then they're also going to be being created practically all the time by cosmic rays hitting the upper atmosphere - and none of *those* have eaten the earth yet...
Rachel, Bristol,
I completely agree with this report but I believe it's human nature to take an interest in and believe in scare stories because we want to feel safe. Consequently those store sell papers and are the reason why they get all the attention.
Ian, Leamington Spa, United Kingdom
Re last two posts. There is only one person on Earth who claims to be infallible and I am sure he does not agree with the foolhardy risks being taken with the planet and mankind. If we still build cars that break down, why do certain scientists think we can recreate the Big Bang with impunity? Ego?
Colin Burns, Ayr, South Ayrshire
- Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/08/2008
Just outside Geneva, 300ft below ground, the LHC will blast atomic particles around its circumference approximately 11,200 times every second, before smashing them headlong into one another.
说咖啡藏龙卧虎没错.LHC可真要一爆惊人?别忘了给咖啡人指一条世界末日里的生路.
令胡冲 wrote: - posted on 09/08/2008
rzp wrote:
Just outside Geneva, 300ft below ground, the LHC will blast atomic particles around its circumference approximately 11,200 times every second, before smashing them headlong into one another.说咖啡藏龙卧虎没错.LHC可真要一爆惊人?别忘了给咖啡人指一条世界末日里的生路.
Just stay steady on the course - if the black hole happens, we just rid on it. go through the dimension boundaries and right into the mirrored universe - life just carry on in that universe. Yes, earth maybe dead here, but re-born over there. You won't even feel the transition. So you don't need another 生路. :) - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/09/2008
嘿嘿,我非常期待这场对撞。
- posted on 09/10/2008
欧洲大型强子对撞机投入使用 (BBC)
大型强子对撞机耗资50亿英镑
欧洲核子研究中心(Cern)的大型强子对撞机(LHC)星期三(9月10日)首次投入使用,开始粒子对撞试验。
这个世界上最大的粒子对撞物理试验设备位于瑞士和法国边界地带的地下100米深处,其圆环形的粒子加速隧道长达27公里。
欧洲核子研究中心大型强子对撞机的设计构想形成于1980年代早期,建造计划在1996年获得批准,耗资大约50亿英镑。
建造大型强子对撞机的目的在于,让粒子在尽可能高的速度下对撞,从而分离出过去不为人知的粒子成分,了解物质构成的进一步细节。
科学家认为,试验中可能会发现一些新的粒子,而这些粒子曾经在大爆炸发生后瞬间的宇宙早期存在过。所以说,实验的结果可能会揭示宇宙形成的奥秘。
科学家们在大型强子对撞机27公里长的隧道上安装了1000多组环状磁铁,用来为注入隧道的质子束导向。
最后,以相反方向运行的两束质子将被加速到接近光的速度,也就是每秒钟运行11000周。
科学家将在隧道特定的地点让质子束运行轨道偏移,发生对撞,四个巨大的探测器将记录对撞瞬间所产生的粒子的行为。
英国利物浦大学粒子物理学家希尔斯说,"我们对物质的了解将会比以往任何时候都要深刻。"他说,试验结果将展示大爆炸发生后十亿分之一秒的宇宙组成状况。
- Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
LHC尊容:
- Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
到底撞了没有嘛?!见鬼,昨天的工作拖到今天,看起来还得做。 :( - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
这CERN,咱还真有一位哥们在里面混。别人说混就混进去了。
加速器高速粒子,真能打出黑洞来?不是说黑洞是霍金意淫马当娜臆
出来的吗,果然说来就来,真能毁灭地球么?
唉,想想,老爱也不是因为爱情爱出了质能关系,一大堆核武器也够
地球受的了。现在看来,精神变物质,意淫胜过爱情!
伟大的西方人,还直是三只脚的希腊人民的后裔。
不用紧张,咱只是来轻松一下话题:)
- Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
When I saw this google pic this morning, i thought it's a bracelet.
rzp wrote:
LHC尊容:
http://www.google.com/logos/lhc.gif"> - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
xw wrote:
加速器高速粒子,真能打出黑洞来?不是说黑洞是霍金意淫马当娜臆
出来的吗,果然说来就来,真能毁灭地球么?
真的吗?这八卦是真的??
- posted on 09/10/2008
LHC wrote:
xw wrote:真的吗?这八卦是真的??
加速器高速粒子,真能打出黑洞来?不是说黑洞是霍金意淫马当娜臆
出来的吗,果然说来就来,真能毁灭地球么?
假作真是真亦假。令胡得补一补藏传密门的功课:)
我以前一直以为大爆炸是那帮天主教徒在娘肚子里正好遇到世界大战搞
出来的,现在不。圣经那点引子也不稀奇,外因怎比内因?
令胡再想想。八卦是真也不少,尤其是名人?霍金迷马当娜,迷色情杂
志,这是千真万确的。
这世界末日到底是几点几分几秒?得有点心理准备。
- posted on 09/10/2008
xw wrote:
假作真是真亦假。令胡得补一补藏传密门的功课:)
我以前一直以为大爆炸是那帮天主教徒在娘肚子里正好遇到世界大战搞
出来的,现在不。圣经那点引子也不稀奇,外因怎比内因?
令胡再想想。八卦是真也不少,尤其是名人?霍金迷马当娜,迷色情杂
志,这是千真万确的。
这世界末日到底是几点几分几秒?得有点心理准备。
网上象罔一开玩笑,我还真有些不适应。:)
听说是伦敦时间早上八点启动,9:15对撞。即使有黑洞,我们大家也不过是瞬间转过了宇宙时空边界,进入了对称宇宙,进入新的宇宙。时空仍然在进行,就不明白怎么总有人要什么心理准备呢?:) - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/10/2008
抱歉,对撞还没有进行,今天是试机。我又被车站的免费报纸给欺骗了。大家准备好...
BBC网页有全方位的报道。
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7595855.stm - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/11/2008
Hahahahaha...
LHC wrote:
抱歉,对撞还没有进行,今天是试机。我又被车站的免费报纸给欺骗了。大家准备好...
BBC网页有全方位的报道。
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7595855.stm - posted on 09/11/2008
depression就是一个黑洞,它把我的灵魂肉体全都吸进去了。
也许我有panic,我看今年是不同寻常的一年,很多的event,这么多的地震海啸飓风,日本刚刚又是7级地震,加州肯定近期还有地震。下面几个月希望太平。
depression也许就是大爆炸的起因,忧郁躁狂的什么东西爆炸之后就形成了没有脾气的peaceful的宇宙了,是这样的吗?
令胡,定让你下辈子尝尝depression的滋味,你才不油嘴滑舌。
令胡冲 wrote:
看看欧洲是如何通过媒体炒作来达到全民科普目的的。
时间的前方有如此多的黑洞,不明白有些人怎么还会迫不及待地寻死觅活。 - Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/11/2008
- Re: 本周三欧洲末日,还是世界末日? (科普?)posted on 09/12/2008
that's pretty good. Only wish the audio quality were better. - posted on 11/18/2008
好像是有根电线没焊好,还是怎么的。
Repairing the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) near Geneva will cost almost £14m ($21m) and "realistically" take until at least next summer to start back up.
An electrical failure shut the £3.6bn ($6.6bn) machine down in September.
The European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern) thought it would only be out of action until November but the damage was worse than expected.
It is hoped repairs will be completed by May or early June with the machine restarted at the end of June or later.
Cern spokesman James Gillies said: "If we can do it sooner, all well and good. But I think we can do it realistically (in) early summer."
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