富士康就是一所监狱,我们用的是囚徒们的手工。所谓军事化管理,就是监狱制管理,换了个好听点的名词。某种意义上说,富士康本身也是一种囚徒,众多跟他一起抢饭吃的代工工厂,大家都在中国这个最大的监狱里,争夺西方公司施舍的微薄利润。他们陷入了囚徒困境。囚徒困境的结论是,每个人只考虑个人利益,那么对于整体来说是满盘皆输的。中国从放开个别人致富开始,就踏上了这条路。监狱式等级森严的控制,维持着龙的儿子是龙、贼的儿子是贼的社会阶层。在这样的格局里,没有横向的合作与同盟,因此也无法突破困境。进口铁矿石被人家宰、出口稀土也被人家猛宰,其他的进出口商品定价权也都不在自己手里。中国模式如何让人相信是赢的模式?
- posted on 05/27/2010
The whole Chinese economy in general is controlled by the ruling group at the top in China to amass material resources for the ruling group. The ruling group only want to avoid revolution of the mass in their "opening". It is the ultimate example of the "wealth of the nation (i.e., the state, the government, the ruling group)" instead of the wealth of the individuals. The Chinese economic system is a monster. The major beneficiary is the ruling group. All the propaganda including the incitement of the nationalistic pride is for that purpose too. - Re: 囚徒困境posted on 05/27/2010
The more export, the more foreign currency the ruling group can obtain at the expense of domestic inflation. If one can see through the layers of falsity, he can see the true ruthless and inhumane nature of the Chinese ruling group. They just put on a show to deceive persons in the whole world. They are vicious. - Re: Thanksposted on 05/27/2010
Thanks Shudai. Very well said.
BTW I was testing with posting function, so please forgive the randomness.
- Re: Please deleteposted on 05/27/2010
I was testing with posting function, and the other post is a mistake. Please delete. Thanks!
- posted on 05/27/2010
Test456 wrote:
富士康就是一所监狱,我们用的是囚徒们的手工。所谓军事化管理,就是监狱制管理,换了个好听点的名词。某种意义上说,富士康本身也是一种囚徒,众多跟他一起抢饭吃的代工工厂,大家都在中国这个最大的监狱里,争夺西方公司施舍的微薄利润。他们陷入了囚徒困境。囚徒困境的结论是,每个人只考虑个人利益,那么对于整体来说是满盘皆输的。中国从放开个别人致富开始,就踏上了这条路。监狱式等级森严的控制,维持着龙的儿子是龙、贼的儿子是贼的社会阶层。在这样的格局里,没有横向的合作与同盟,因此也无法突破困境。进口铁矿石被人家宰、出口稀土也被人家猛宰,其他的进出口商品定价权也都不在自己手里。中国模式如何让人相信是赢的模式?
富士康是台资企业,其管理与其说是中国模式不如说是日本模式。拿富士康来说中国的事不靠谱。
中国自有中国的问题,另说。 - posted on 05/27/2010
According to the Chaos Theory, a random event could be the source of a patterned structure. The theory does not state that such an event should be a cause for apologies.
But a butterfly that flapped its wings in South America should not be blamed for a storm in Kansas. Those employees who chose to end their lives in a dramatic and tragic way, to the dismay of their family, bear no casual links to the eventual demise of Foxconn in China, subsequent to the cancellation of all contracts by Apple Inc, for reasons unrelated to the sad events. The corruption and inhumanity of Chinese governing body is irrelevant to the ultimate downfall of Communist Party, at a time not measured by years, but by dollars.
This piece itself, randomly created, is not to be viewed as a response to any particular position.
Joey wrote:
Thanks Shudai. Very well said.
BTW I was testing with posting function, so please forgive the randomness.
- Re: RE: 囚徒困境posted on 05/28/2010
fengzi拿randomness做文章。我的本意是我会随机上一些帖子,比如隔壁的“aaaaa”之类。 - Re: RE: 囚徒困境posted on 05/28/2010
这个囚徒困境恐怕是无解。因为我们的游戏规则一向是赢者通吃,有远见、有抱负的人们不在乎眼下的蝇头小利,不拿到最后的垄断利润(统一)决不罢休。这样的博弈里达成纳什均衡太难了。 - posted on 05/28/2010
这个问题的提出是好的,也足够真诚。但是,解答就难了,难于上青天。
我看还是要两方面调整一下,那一线谈对话。我一直以为,缺乏交流是最大的问题。
谁家谁群也不指望哪一位跳楼而去,再怎么造成影响不好听。但没有交流确实是个
问题。我在那一线谈到声音的作用,这个是切身体会。你不会发声,就只能生闷气,
谁不找机会欺负你?我们在海外,又何尝不是失去半边声带?
又说到中国模式对世界的影响,这些年在公司还能感觉到。以前很正常的一个公司
,还是美国妈妈公司,也被华尔街感染了。这亡命徒似地折腾,或未必是中国模式,
说一战、二战那伙,都是二十四小时亡命地工作,造炸弹飞机轮船,牛肉罐头军用
物资之类。
关中说日本模式,我感觉是有点军营模式。这些都是花边似地谈。要说核心我也能
体会一些,但不能说啊,全是政治不正确的事。
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