wven 3 would be perfect. one for money, one for entertaining, and the third one is the soulmate.
it might happen in mianland china if the country people keep on killing baby girls.
基督教会的权威一天天衰弱,会使得婚姻成为一个过时的合同制度。 婚姻法对于财产的所有权分配也会有新的法律。
这个世界所有的婚姻法律都对独身的人不利。
非常悲伤。
- Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 02/20/2004
What's the fouth one for?
You may get all-in-one -:) - wish is a wishposted on 02/20/2004
降E大调 wrote:
> What's the fouth one for?
>
> You may get all-in-one -:) - posted on 02/21/2004
更前卫的说法是一妻(夫)多夫(妻),但每一夫(妻)又同时有多妻(夫)。如此交叉互联,是真正的社会internet。…
玛雅 wrote:
> wven 3 would be perfect. one for money, one for entertaining, and the third one is the soulmate.
>
> it might happen in mianland china if the country people keep on killing baby girls.
>
> 基督教会的权威一天天衰弱,会使得婚姻成为一个过时的合同制度。 婚姻法对于财产的所有权分配也会有新的法律。
>
> 这个世界所有的婚姻法律都对独身的人不利。
>
> 非常悲伤。 - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/09/2004
If you have a job, you can earn your own money. If you have some brain, you can keep yourself entertained. So that only leaves one need for a woman - a soulmate. :)
Then of course, let's not forget the fourth man - a sex slave. :)
玛雅 wrote:
even 3 would be perfect. one for money, one for entertaining, and the third one is the soulmate. - posted on 03/15/2004
The most impressive use I learned of the word was in the story of JFK Jr., when he and his wife died in their flight crash. Their relatives recalled their love and saying they were soulmates. But later, the tabloids revealed that they all had their own extra-martial affairs…That’s a soulmate!
in addition, would the soulmate guy give up the slave role so it can be taken over by the fourth guy?
adagio wrote:
If you have a job, you can earn your own money. If you have some brain, you can keep yourself entertained. So that only leaves one need for a woman - a soulmate. :)
Then of course, let's not forget the fourth man - a sex slave. :)
玛雅 wrote:
even 3 would be perfect. one for money, one for entertaining, and the third one is the soulmate. - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/18/2004
Also she like to share the men with others three women.:-) - posted on 03/21/2004
降E大调 wrote:
The most impressive use I learned of the word was in the story of JFK Jr., when he and his wife died in their flight crash. Their relatives recalled their love and saying they were soulmates.
Husband and wife are soulmates? Fat chance. :)
But later, the tabloids revealed that they all had their own extra-martial affairs…That’s a soulmate!
That's why I am hesitant about using this word. Soulmate, like Love, has been used too loosely and recklessly that it has lost its real meaning.
in addition, would the soulmate guy give up the slave role so it can be taken over by the fourth guy?
Why should a soulmate be ever concerned with anything outside his soul's territory? :))
I didn't see your post earlier. Just pour in a few lines now for fun. :) - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/21/2004
then, that soulmate role doesn't seem attractive...:) - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/21/2004
then you are not a material for soulmate. :) - posted on 03/22/2004
Your are actually right...
But i do have a few soulmates, if they are meant someone whom you do not sleep with but you can talk to from your heart and soul: 3B -- Bach, Beethoven, Brahms...
As long as mating concerned, with women as a man, my thoughts are as raw and simple as people who live in the caves of 黄土高原:marry the one you love and make her happy...soulmating or not, doesn't matter!
adagio wrote:
then you are not a material for soulmate. :) - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/29/2004
不可能有 all-in-one 的人。一个人如果高,就不可能矮;胖,就不可能瘦;安静,就不可能活泼;纯情,就不可能风流;等等。只能渴望一个多面的人,但一个人如果复杂多面,就不可能简单。。。
soulmate 的中文是什么?世界上还有人相信这个吗?可以是单方面的吗?(也许我有一个,但可能他并不这么认为,而我也不敢去问他,大概就不算吧?)
降E大调 wrote:
What's the fouth one for?
You may get all-in-one -:) - posted on 03/30/2004
Soulmate 中文是“知己”吗 ?好象意思还不到 。。。
我不相信 Soulmate, 太难有了。 也显得太 made up,
好象每个人都有个定做的校服,
有时候,就是一个完全不合的人才有吸引力.
现在有那么一点理解和真爱就已经很难了,人人都不完美,
即使遇见还要有缘,有缘还要能相处。
婚姻成了个到时就交卷的决定,就是这个人了,
这也容易,因为选择本也不多,
而且人人都单调乏味, 面目相似,区别也不大.
但爱情亦然美好,至少刚开始是这样.
阿姗 wrote:
不可能有 all-in-one 的人。一个人如果高,就不可能矮;胖,就不可能瘦;安静,就不可能活泼;纯情,就不可能风流;等等。只能渴望一个多面的人,但一个人如果复杂多面,就不可能简单。。。
soulmate 的中文是什么?世界上还有人相信这个吗?可以是单方面的吗?(也许我有一个,但可能他并不这么认为,而我也不敢去问他,大概就不算吧?)
降E大调 wrote:
What's the fouth one for?
You may get all-in-one -:) - Re: it would be wonderful if oneday a woman can marry 4 menposted on 03/30/2004
A true soul needs no mate. - posted on 03/30/2004
我们往往把一切概念弄得太绝对了。 我小的时候就是这样。 小朋友一次背叛就与她决裂,一次口角就不原谅。 我们都是成人了,朋友就是路途上的一个伙伴,一个交谈的对象,是这一刻面对的人。 soulmate也是这样,生命总在流动,此刻的soul与明年此时的soul也许很不相同,我们只要满足这时有个伴就好了,比如我们在咖啡店里的朋友,这一刻在一起就好了。
所以从这个角度讲,婚姻就是把两个人绑在一起同行,当然会不尽人意,这个组合适合害怕寂寞的人。 勇敢一点的,每时每刻都可以找到同行的人, 看看你有没有创意。
传统的家庭模式逐渐瓦解,人们结合起来的纽带不再是血缘关系,而是共同的爱好,共同的目标。 这一点一定要引起注意,后现代的兄弟姐妹是“同志”关系。这么多年,我都是在不同的家庭与不同的人过圣诞节,我一样觉得是一种family的关系。
drinking wrote:
A true soul needs no mate. - Re: 世界的事情从来没有这样绝对posted on 03/30/2004
嘿。玛雅这番话到是说得清澈。难得难得。 - Re: 世界的事情从来没有这样绝对posted on 03/30/2004
补充一点。传统的家庭模式是不会瓦解的,只要人类还有繁衍后代的需要,婚姻和家庭是最适合养育后代的一种模式,这个若解了体,社会就不成其为社会了。纵看历史,横看种族,终生操心养家糊口过琐碎日子的俗人还是占了绝大多数。对于他们,结婚和组建家庭只能是理所当然的生活方式。 - posted on 03/30/2004
知己这个词太弱了些。soulmate 好象要更神圣,更 mysterious 一些。
一个旧男友多年后相遇,坦露真心,称我为 soulmate ,可我当时一点感觉也没有。我觉得我的 soulmates (如果有的话) 都是在读书时,突然发现的懂得我的作者。所以孤独的时候需要读书,在书中找到“灵魂”上的伴侣。
因此我不再追求生活中 soulmate 了,是否是向现实的一种妥协??
drinking wrote:
Soulmate 中文是“知己”吗 ?好象意思还不到 。。。
我不相信 Soulmate, 太难有了。 也显得太 made up,
好象每个人都有个定做的校服,
有时候,就是一个完全不合的人才有吸引力.
是啊,有时候,就是一个完全不合的人才有吸引力。
现在有那么一点理解和真爱就已经很难了,人人都不完美,
即使遇见还要有缘,有缘还要能相处。
婚姻成了个到时就交卷的决定,就是这个人了,
这也容易,因为选择本也不多,
而且人人都单调乏味, 面目相似,区别也不大.
这个,太消极了些。<叹气> - Re: 世界的事情从来没有这样绝对posted on 03/30/2004
再补充一点。若真有找到精神伴侣(soulmate)的感觉,这个字不会整天挂在嘴边的,更不会有今年的soulmate就不同于明年的soulmate这种事,soulmate若也能如衣,常常更新,还叫什么soulmate?整天把知己挂在嘴边找知己的人,还是幼稚。
我这补充来补充去,玛雅的原话似乎又漏洞百出了。:)不过她能看把有共同兴趣的朋友看作自己的family,这种豁达却是难得。
- posted on 03/30/2004
以前一直认为世界是黑与白的,后来发现原来还有灰色,而且有不同明暗的灰色,挣扎之后,承认了这点,就是一次向现实的妥协。慢慢,一切一切都是圆的了,都是模糊的了,都是模棱两可的了。看到的世界是丰富多彩了,但渐渐的,我们变成了看者,去欣赏和体验这些色彩和变化多端。年青的时候,情感是激烈的;成人后,就少了激烈,多了丰盛。我看着想着这些人生的变化,好象坐在岸上看河水的流逝。
玛雅,你能每时每刻都找到同行的人吗??我曾一直是独行的,知道四年前,才第一次发现,我的路上原来还有别的人在行走!最近在你的咖啡店,又隐约的看到了一些人的影子。
- posted on 03/30/2004
drinking wrote:
A true soul needs no mate.
Your hearts know in silence the secrets of the days and the nights.
But your ears thirst for the sound of your heart's knowledge.
You would know in words that which you have always know in thought.
You would touch with your fingers the naked body of your dreams.
And it is well you should.
The hidden well-spring of your soul must needs rise and run murmuring to the sea;
And the treasure of your infinite depths would be revealed to your eyes.
But let there be no scales to weigh your unknown treasure;
And seek not the depths of your knowledge with staff or sounding line.
For self is a sea boundless and measureless.
Say not, "I have found the truth," but rather, "I have found a truth."
Say not, "I have found the path of the soul." Say rather, "I have met the soul walking upon my path."
For the soul walks upon all paths.
The soul walks not upon a line, neither does it grow like a reed.
The soul unfolds itself, like a lotus of countless petals.
- posted on 03/30/2004
adagio wrote:
再补充一点。若真有找到精神伴侣(soulmate)的感觉,这个字不会整天挂在嘴边的,更不会有今年的soulmate就不同于明年的soulmate这种事,soulmate若也能如衣,常常更新,还叫什么soulmate?整天把知己挂在嘴边找知己的人,还是幼稚。
是啊,如果按我理解的定义,soul (灵魂) 是一个人唯一不变的性征,超越时空的,不随时间或任何外界影响而改变的。因此 soulmate 按定义,不可能时时换。玛雅所说的恐怕是“知己”,活志趣相投的朋友。
但,soul 到底又是什么呢?
对不起,平时我不发言,这次一写就写了这么一大堆。
- Re: 玛雅所说的 soulmateposted on 03/30/2004
这几天研究克拉拉.舒曼和勃拉姆斯,觉得他们是soulmate。这不仅是因为他们有同样出於灵魂的东西感应对方。他们其实也有过很多属於情感方面的争吵,勃拉姆斯还曾暗恋克拉拉的女儿。。。
这世间很少找勃拉姆斯那样深沉的人。乐如其人。
柴可夫斯基和梅克夫人不算。他们的关系和老柴的音乐一样,让人不舒服。
乔治桑和肖邦也不算。他们的关系还没有仔细研究。但感觉和肖邦的音乐不同。但没有读过乔治桑的小说。
- posted on 03/30/2004
大调今天说的话非常profound啊!
乔治桑和肖邦是互补的关系,乔治桑是一头发情的母狮子,精力旺盛如地母,在她的土地上生长出肖邦这株敏感的花。
柴可夫斯基和梅克夫人不算, 太对了,倒不见得不舒服。 他们害怕见面,一见面,什么美的感觉都没有了。老柴更喜欢美少年。 梅克夫人多半是又老又丑的。我猜的。
降E大调 wrote:
这几天研究克拉克.舒曼和勃拉姆斯,觉得他们是soulmate。这不仅是因为他们有同样出於灵魂的东西感应对方。他们其实也有过很多属於情感方面的争吵,勃拉姆斯还曾暗恋克拉克的女儿。。。
这世间很少找勃拉姆斯那样深沉的人。乐如其人。
柴可夫斯基和梅克夫人不算。他们的关系和老柴的音乐一样,让人不舒服。
乔治桑和肖邦也不算。他们的关系还没有仔细研究。但感觉和肖邦的音乐不同。但没有读过乔治桑的小说。
- posted on 03/30/2004
profound? felt people in your Cafe all are too sophisticated, so trying a little bit harder to get a little bit "profound", and see if there's still a slim hope to be a material for being a soulmate...
But you may be right on 乔治桑和肖邦,柴可夫斯基和梅克夫人...
maya wrote:
大调今天说的话非常profound啊!
乔治桑和肖邦是互补的关系,乔治桑是一头发情的母狮子,精力旺盛如地母,在她的土地上生长出肖邦这株敏感的花。
柴可夫斯基和梅克夫人不算, 太对了,倒不见得不舒服。 他们害怕见面,一见面,什么美的感觉都没有了。老柴更喜欢美少年。 梅克夫人多半是又老又丑的。我猜的。
- Re: 降E兄再考据考据梅克夫人和德彪西的关系。posted on 03/30/2004
勃拉姆斯耐听,老柴也不是那么难听,就说钢琴套曲《四季》,尤其
是那首船歌。音乐也不都是写给哲学家听的,也给小孩,给节日,给
人们累了一天工作后休息。
诗歌也一样,我想。 - Re: 降E兄再考据考据梅克夫人和德彪西的关系。posted on 03/30/2004
XW君说得也是。老柴的音乐当然不是不好听,而是太好听了。
不过总的感觉,老柴和勃拉姆斯的差别太鲜明。老柴的音乐是给爱得死去活来的少男少女的。。。而勃拉姆斯是给尝尽了酸甜苦辣的大老爷们的。喜欢一个,另一个很可能会受到冷遇。
xw wrote:
勃拉姆斯耐听,老柴也不是那么难听,就说钢琴套曲《四季》,尤其
是那首船歌。音乐也不都是写给哲学家听的,也给小孩,给节日,给
人们累了一天工作后休息。
诗歌也一样,我想。 - posted on 03/30/2004
haha, someone is not happy with my comment ... :)
When we talk about Soul, sex/gender is irrelevant. That's all I was saying. Of course, it's probably better if your soulmate happens to be an opposite sex, for Yin and Yang together complete the world ...
OK, you now know I am joking. Sometimes I myself can't even tell if I am serious or not, when talk to a stranger. :)
降E大调 wrote:
profound? felt people in your Cafe all are too sophisticated, so trying a little bit harder to get a little bit "profound", and see if there's still a slim hope to be a material for being a soulmate... - posted on 03/30/2004
haha, you are getting really serious, aren’t you? I was learning really hard to become a little bit humorous....It seems that i'm hopeless!
adagio wrote:
haha, someone is not happy with my comment ... :)
When we talk about Soul, sex/gender is irrelevant. That's all I was saying. Of course, it's probably better if your soulmate happens to be an opposite sex, for Yin and Yang together complete the world ...
OK, you now know I am joking. Sometimes I myself can't even tell if I am serious or not, when talk to a stranger. :)
降E大调 wrote:
profound? felt people in your Cafe all are too sophisticated, so trying a little bit harder to get a little bit "profound", and see if there's still a slim hope to be a material for being a soulmate... - Re: 玛雅所说的 soulmateposted on 03/30/2004
eflatmajor, expect your idea about Debussy and ...
At the same time, Brahms admired John Strauss Jr. so much for his
Blue Danube and other Waltzes, how do you comment ?
- posted on 03/30/2004
I am not sure if i'd like to dig so deep for Debussy's relationship with Madame Mek, even though i really enjoy his music. If you have something, i'd like to know it from you.
Brahms is a nice guy. He had all the good words for Strauss and Dvorak, etc. Besides, I think that Blue Danube, Tale from Vienna Woods and other waltz by J. Struass, are full of inspirations from a great genius. I love them.
xw wrote:
eflatmajor, expect your idea about Debussy and ...
At the same time, Brahms admired John Strauss Jr. so much for his
Blue Danube and other Waltzes, how do you comment ?
- Re: all them composers...posted on 03/30/2004
I like Debussy but can't have too much of him. Too soft, too weak, too dreamy. Brahms is OK, maybe too serious and heavy for me. These days I can only listen to his Requiem. Cannot stand Tchaikovsky anymore, not even a single note from him..... J. Strauss is equally unbearable..... Sigh.
These days I am falling in love with Vivaldi. It is nice to have someone to fall in love with, yes?
- posted on 03/30/2004
玛雅 wrote:
wven 3 would be perfect. one for money, one for entertaining, and the third one is the soulmate.
Today I wrote an email to my best friend:
I think I need a man in my life. Otherwise I will just fall off the earth.
She replied:
Correction, you need men in your life, not a man. A man for social life, a
man for work, a man for inspiration, a man for diving, a man for travel, a
man for writing...
So, there are 6 already.... 看来大家还要更加努力些。
- Re: all them composers...posted on 03/31/2004
Ah, Vivaldi, Four Seasons, one of my all time favorites. Baroque time is a time that knows no stress and depression.
阿姗 wrote:
These days I am falling in love with Vivaldi. It is nice to have someone to fall in love with, yes?
- posted on 03/31/2004
My favorite is the CD "Vivaldi: The Great Choral Masterpieces". I love all the choral pieces from the Baroque time and before. Simple, pure, beautiful, graceful,.... "Four Seasons" unfortunately I have heard too much (studied it in details in high school for an exam) so I can't listen to it anymore....
adagio wrote:
Ah, Vivaldi, Four Seasons, one of my all time favorites. Baroque time is a time that knows no stress and depression.
阿姗 wrote:
These days I am falling in love with Vivaldi. It is nice to have someone to fall in love with, yes?
- posted on 04/01/2004
玛雅这段很好 。。。
生命短暂平庸,十几年后,有趣的朋友毫无例外无聊乏味 ...
应有更多不眠的夜一醉方休 。。。
玛雅 wrote:
我们往往把一切概念弄得太绝对了。 我小的时候就是这样。 小朋友一次背叛就与她决裂,一次口角就不原谅。 我们都是成人了,朋友就是路途上的一个伙伴,一个交谈的对象,是这一刻面对的人。 soulmate也是这样,生命总在流动,此刻的soul与明年此时的soul也许很不相同,我们只要满足这时有个伴就好了,比如我们在咖啡店里的朋友,这一刻在一起就好了。
所以从这个角度讲,婚姻就是把两个人绑在一起同行,当然会不尽人意,这个组合适合害怕寂寞的人。 勇敢一点的,每时每刻都可以找到同行的人, 看看你有没有创意。
传统的家庭模式逐渐瓦解,人们结合起来的纽带不再是血缘关系,而是共同的爱好,共同的目标。 这一点一定要引起注意,后现代的兄弟姐妹是“同志”关系。这么多年,我都是在不同的家庭与不同的人过圣诞节,我一样觉得是一种family的关系。
drinking wrote:
A true soul needs no mate.
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