2006想改版玛雅咖啡,我在筹集资金重新装修咖啡店,增加版快。希望大家多提建议,积极参与管理,与我一起来管理咖啡店。参考其他社区的设置,想增添栏目。版块名称还没有明确,请大家一起来想名字。
文学创作(诗歌、小说、剧本、散文随笔,基本上还是咖啡店的主要方向)希望xw、笨笨、废名等作斑竹。
时事(政治、经济文化、热点新闻)adagio、令胡、KC还有小赵来任斑竹好吗?
男男女女(家长里短、爱恨情仇、小男小女小故事)
音乐:古典、现代、歌剧、流行音乐等。希望自立、阿珊担任斑竹
设计、视觉艺术、美术欣赏:lin或者david愿意来当斑竹吗?
青春故事:20岁上下年轻人的天地。alex、雪宝贝等可以来当斑竹吗?
我的工作将集中在邀请网上名角隐士来咖啡店,我今年不想写什么,准备当大家的后勤与读者。
从前我们也谈过咖啡店将来的发展:
http://www.mayacafe.com/forum/topic1.php3?tkey=1124912699
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/22/2006
喜欢就现在这样,什么话题都有兴趣,一目了然,一击而入。一分专栏,多几道门,烦,会稀落。最好别改。 - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/23/2006
How about 咖啡店 blog?
文学创作(诗歌、小说、剧本、散文随笔,基本上还是咖啡店的主要方向)希望xw、笨笨、废名等作斑竹。
时事(政治、经济文化、热点新闻)adagio、令胡、KC还有小赵来任斑竹好吗?
男男女女(家长里短、爱恨情仇、小男小女小故事)
音乐:古典、现代、歌剧、流行音乐等。希望自立、阿珊担任斑竹
设计、视觉艺术、美术欣赏:lin或者david愿意来当斑竹吗?
青春故事:20岁上下年轻人的天地。alex、雪宝贝等可以来当斑竹吗?
- Re: 完全同意QQ的意见.就现在这样,挺好~posted on 01/23/2006
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/23/2006
希望咖啡馆有个更好的未来。 - posted on 01/23/2006
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - posted on 01/23/2006
What the hell are you talking about? Did you get censored?
L wrote:
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - posted on 01/23/2006
Let me tell you the truth: I have joined some Chinese forums and some US/English forums. I have seen censorship more or less in EVERY Chinese site, CND for bad example, and NONE in any English forum, Yahoo for good example.
Hope you get the point.
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? Did you get censored?
L wrote:
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/23/2006
不知道别人怎么样,我到这里来是直扑Writer's Cafe的,是不是这一块应更彰显一点?Writer's Cafe是不是这网站的主要旅游点,主战场? - posted on 01/23/2006
Please note that this is not a charity.
L wrote:
Let me tell you the truth: I have joined some Chinese forums and some US/English forums. I have seen censorship more or less in EVERY Chinese site, CND for bad example, and NONE in any English forum, Yahoo for good example.
Hope you get the point.
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? Did you get censored?
L wrote:
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - posted on 01/23/2006
I understand Maya is not mother Teresa in Chinese version. That's why I was asking “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?”, in order to diminish my confusion, honestly. Are you Maya in veil? If not, did she empower you to answer my question? Or you are just an ordinary surfer here like me?
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
Please note that this is not a charity.
L wrote:
Let me tell you the truth: I have joined some Chinese forums and some US/English forums. I have seen censorship more or less in EVERY Chinese site, CND for bad example, and NONE in any English forum, Yahoo for good example.
Hope you get the point.
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? Did you get censored?
L wrote:
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - posted on 01/23/2006
I am just a shrimp as small as you and I do not need Maya to empower me because she can not afford to do so.
L wrote:
I understand Maya is not mother Teresa in Chinese version. That's why I was asking “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?”, in order to diminish my confusion, honestly. Are you Maya in veil? If not, did she empower you to answer my question? Or you are just an ordinary surfer here like me?
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
Please note that this is not a charity.
L wrote:
Let me tell you the truth: I have joined some Chinese forums and some US/English forums. I have seen censorship more or less in EVERY Chinese site, CND for bad example, and NONE in any English forum, Yahoo for good example.
Hope you get the point.
Ilikeitlikethat wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? Did you get censored?
L wrote:
The hostess may need to clarify the orientation of the cafe. Without knowing its basic guidelines, some (if not many) of us here, either daily surfers or intermittent fun seekers, are hard to respond your announcement and make contributions accordingly. The first question would be “Is the cafe a family party or a public forum?” There are considerable differences between the two types. A family party sets a limited and restrained environment within a circle of friends with close interests and tastes. A public forum on the other hands is wild open. A family party usually means power concentration and censorship (which I dislike the most). The owner has the exclusive rights to the site in making decisions on what and whom are welcome and the others are not. A public forum represents power distribution and the best possible diversity, transparency and liberty. - IMO - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
不要改版。现在这样很好。最多大家把自己贴子的标题前面加一个栏目名,比如【文学创作】,【小男小女】,【音乐欣赏】,【时事新闻】等等,寻找起来方便。
我在路上,一个人开了卡车搬家。向各位问好! - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
Still marrying on the road?
阿姗 wrote:
不要改版。现在这样很好。最多大家把自己贴子的标题前面加一个栏目名,比如【文学创作】,【小男小女】,【音乐欣赏】,【时事新闻】等等,寻找起来方便。
我在路上,一个人开了卡车搬家。向各位问好! - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
改版为什么还要花钱筹集资金?
玛雅 wrote:
2006想改版玛雅咖啡,我在筹集资金重新装修咖啡店,
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
If not, are you going to help her to design the web?
wenzhai wrote:
改版为什么还要花钱筹集资金?
玛雅 wrote:
2006想改版玛雅咖啡,我在筹集资金重新装修咖啡店, - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
问候阿姗.
MAYA的改版想法挺好的,只是目前每天上贴并不是很多的情况下.我觉得QQ,阿姗的建议不错.
阿姗 wrote:
不要改版。现在这样很好。最多大家把自己贴子的标题前面加一个栏目名,比如【文学创作】,【小男小女】,【音乐欣赏】,【时事新闻】等等,寻找起来方便。
我在路上,一个人开了卡车搬家。向各位问好! - posted on 01/24/2006
我对美工设计一敲不通,国外的网站设计公司价格可能较贵。国内的应该100-200美金左右可以搞定,美化网页可以请国内人来作,省钱。
如果是网站后台管理程序的安装和配置,我也许能帮点忙,至少可以作参谋。
Moneyman wrote:
If not, are you going to help her to design the web?
wenzhai wrote:
改版为什么还要花钱筹集资金?
玛雅 wrote:
2006想改版玛雅咖啡,我在筹集资金重新装修咖啡店, - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
开卡车?阿姗真女中豪杰,你的LG怎么不来帮你?想为你打抱不平了。
当年长途搬家也开过中型卡车,后面还拖辆小车,穿山越谷过暴风雪,听上去浪漫,
实际上一点不好玩。
阿姗多多保重,一路平安!
阿姗 wrote:
不要改版。现在这样很好。最多大家把自己贴子的标题前面加一个栏目名,比如【文学创作】,【小男小女】,【音乐欣赏】,【时事新闻】等等,寻找起来方便。
我在路上,一个人开了卡车搬家。向各位问好! - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
嘻嘻,现在是LG,不是BF啦,当然不会不请自来的帮忙。这点基本的婚姻常识俺是懂的。只可惜世上又少了些浪漫故事。其实四年前也一个人开了中型卡车,后面拖辆小车,冬天里横跨美国,七天三千哩跨十六州,很觉英豪气的。也梦想着何日找个人一起开车.... 幸亏我喜欢一个人开长途。昨天在车里学了一整天莎士比亚。"I am myself alone."
- posted on 01/24/2006
阿姗喜欢路上的感觉,好风光!又要搬到哪里去呢?
埃及走了多少个方尖碑?我又去了一次纽约的方尖碑。把照片拽过来:
The Obelisk
The oldest man-made object in Central Park is the Obelisk, located directly behind the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Although it is familiarly known as Cleopatra's Needle, the dedication of the Obelisk in fact had nothing to do with Cleopatra, but was a self-commissioned tribute to Egypt's Thutmosis III (an accurate attribution, but clearly without the popular appeal of the Queen of the Nile). The Obelisk was erected in Heliopolis around 1500 BC, moved to Alexandria, and from there to the United States in 1879. The Khedive of Egypt (who governed as a viceroy of the Sultan of Turkey between 1879 and 1914) offered it to the United States in the hope of stimulating economic development in his country.
Moving the Obelisk from Alexandria, Egypt, to Central Park was a feat second only to its original construction. Imagine moving a 71 foot, 244 ton granite needle, first from vertical to horizontal, then into the hold of a ship, across the Mediterranean Sea, and over the storm-tossed Atlantic Ocean without breakage. It took four months just to bring it from the banks of the Hudson River to the Park! The final leg of the journey was made across a specially built trestle bridge from Fifth Avenue to its new home on Greywacke Knoll.
You only realize the massive scale of the obelisk when you stand right at its base, supported at each corner by bronze replicas of sea crabs crafted by the Romans (and on display in the Sackler Wing of the Metropolitan Museum); one crab alone weighs approximately 900 pounds. The plaza around the Obelisk has benches for admiring its design, manufacture, and inscription. Surrounding the plaza are Japanese yews, magnolias, and crab apples.
http://www.centralparknyc.org/virtualpark/thegreatlawn/obelisk
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好象这世上方尖碑都有点风水轮轮转的味道的!
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/24/2006
埃及走了多少个方尖碑?我又去了一次纽约的方尖碑。把照片拽过来:
好羡慕啊,我都想去看看了。我打算打的去埃及,坐神七去纽约,整
点航拍的方尖碑啥的。
不过,装修这事情,王木匠不在行,我只负责木工,比如地板。玛雅
这里都属于上层建筑,光会整地板肯定不成。 - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
by wenzhai 我对美工设计一敲不通,国外的网站设计公司价格可能较贵。国内的应该100-200美金左右可以搞定,美化网页可以请国内人来作,省钱。
国内一般报价:设计不会低于600美金,应该在4000美金左右,有了创意只是后期制作,费用在600美金左右,那又是另一回事。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
国内 or 国外?
shihua wrote:
by wenzhai 我对美工设计一敲不通,国外的网站设计公司价格可能较贵。国内的应该100-200美金左右可以搞定,美化网页可以请国内人来作,省钱。国内一般报价:设计不会低于600美金,应该在4000美金左右,有了创意只是后期制作,费用在600美金左右,那又是另一回事。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
To:leonard 上面的是国内创意设计制作报价。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
Thanks. It seems that it is not cheap in 国内. Do you know what kind of programs they use?
shihua wrote:
To:leonard 上面的是国内创意设计制作报价。
- posted on 01/25/2006
既然大家都说不改,那就先不改了罢。今年因为不想写什么正经东西,而且想“权力下放”,最主要的是希望咖啡店能够更加兼容并蓄,特别是吸引更多20岁上下的年轻人来咖啡店聊天,并且想打破从前的一些戒律,更加轻松兼容。另外,我查了一下统计,来咖啡店潜水的人非常多,我在想他们为什么只潜水而不发言呢?是不是觉得气氛不对,害怕讲话呢?为此,我想开辟一个更加随心所欲的地盘,让大家有地方无拘无束。
时间无情,转眼在网上论坛胡混已经4、5年了,看看几个海外活跃的论坛,里面的话题、里面的人也渐渐老气横秋。思想需要氧气、需要青春的能量,我一直保持着跟少男少女们的交流,因为她们是思想的新鲜空气。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
TO:leonard 业界标准的Adobe Photoshop CS 软件及其集成的Web 制作应用程序Adobe ImageReady CS 软件 Photoshop+Illustrator+PageMaker+其他Adobe工具+3D 。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
文摘啊,你还是可以敲通地:)谢!如果改版,不光要考虑到网页制作费用,而且要考虑到管理、宣传以及将来扩大的费用,这需要一笔实实在在的资金。
既然大家都觉得现在好,那就等水到渠成吧。
wenzhai wrote:
我对美工设计一敲不通,国外的网站设计公司价格可能较贵。国内的应该100-200美金左右可以搞定,美化网页可以请国内人来作,省钱。
如果是网站后台管理程序的安装和配置,我也许能帮点忙,至少可以作参谋。
- posted on 01/25/2006
600美金有点贵,可能是面向企业的。
我的网站(http://www.idigest.net)前一阵花了800rmb,美化了首页。但是觉得颜色不太好看,希望大家提提意见,是不是真的不好 , 或只是我个人感觉的问题。
这是我朋友的网站 http://www.anniesilver.com/ ,请认识人设计的 花了1000rmb,我觉得很好。
shihua wrote:
国内一般报价:设计不会低于600美金,应该在4000美金左右,有了创意只是后期制作,费用在600美金左右,那又是另一回事。
- posted on 01/25/2006
玛雅,
大家都说不改, you can just keep the current one and 开辟一个更加随心所欲的地盘. Always not changing, it seems too boring.
玛雅 wrote:
既然大家都说不改,那就先不改了罢。今年因为不想写什么正经东西,而且想“权力下放”,最主要的是希望咖啡店能够更加兼容并蓄,特别是吸引更多20岁上下的年轻人来咖啡店聊天,并且想打破从前的一些戒律,更加轻松兼容。另外,我查了一下统计,来咖啡店潜水的人非常多,我在想他们为什么只潜水而不发言呢?是不是觉得气氛不对,害怕讲话呢?为此,我想开辟一个更加随心所欲的地盘,让大家有地方无拘无束。
时间无情,转眼在网上论坛胡混已经4、5年了,看看几个海外活跃的论坛,里面的话题、里面的人也渐渐老气横秋。思想需要氧气、需要青春的能量,我一直保持着跟少男少女们的交流,因为她们是思想的新鲜空气。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 01/25/2006
TO:WENZHAI
访问过你的叶子了,没细看内容,就形式来说,整体视觉感觉比较“平”,文字与图片及背景的设计色差不明显,浑然一片。你朋友的叶子稍好点,主要是因为添加了TITLE动画和3D效果版块区。我上面说的是商业(广告)VI设计报价,国内行情如此。朋友帮忙价、业余设计价就不好说了。
- posted on 02/20/2006
目前我想开个中文商业网站,格式和复杂程度和以下两个类似:
http://www.chinapages.com/ http://www.backchina.org/ 比第一个复杂,比第二个简单。
shihua,
请问你知道国内哪里可以找到设计人?费用大约多少?谢谢!
wenzhai,
你的网站我去看了看,画面色调太灰色了些,内容主题不够突出,好象有些散。这
是初步印象。你的domain name应该有些价值。
shihua wrote:
TO:WENZHAI
访问过你的叶子了,没细看内容,就形式来说,整体视觉感觉比较“平”,文字与图片及背景的设计色差不明显,浑然一片。你朋友的叶子稍好点,主要是因为添加了TITLE动画和3D效果版块区。我上面说的是商业(广告)VI设计报价,国内行情如此。朋友帮忙价、业余设计价就不好说了。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/20/2006
wenzhai,
你的domain name应该有些价值。
真的吗?谢谢。 www.eworking.net 怎么样?是不是更有价值, 也是我的 ^_^
- posted on 02/20/2006
这个看上去应该也有至少几千的价值吧。不过net比com逊色许多。
国外域名冷到现在好象还没有起色,国内域名商业倒是方兴未艾,一个赠台大熊猫
域名“团团圆圆.com”已经被炒到50万RMB,crazy!
俺也有几个域名在待价而沽,没有十万是不肯出手的。不过却不能透露,一透露个
人信息就全暴光了。呵呵。。
wenzhai wrote:
wenzhai,真的吗?谢谢。 www.eworking.net 怎么样?是不是更有价值, 也是我的 ^_^
你的domain name应该有些价值。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/20/2006
俺也有几个域名在待价而沽,没有十万是不肯出手的。不过却不能透露,一透露个
人信息就全暴光了。呵呵。。
那就一起做发财梦吧,哈哈。
我domain 上的注册信息是假的,没人查,不怕曝光
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/21/2006
To: Amy's father
我可以帮你联系专业的网站设计和制作人员。VI设计,由创意到设计到制作,之前已经报价过,请参看上面的回复。
timebeijing@yahoo.com.cn ,这是我的信箱,可以来信,告诉我您的要求,进一步沟通细节。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/21/2006
shihua,
I am going to contact you soon. Thanks.
shihua wrote:
To: Amy's father
我可以帮你联系专业的网站设计和制作人员。VI设计,由创意到设计到制作,之前已经报价过,请参看上面的回复。
timebeijing@yahoo.com.cn ,这是我的信箱,可以来信,告诉我您的要求,进一步沟通细节。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/23/2006
maya,你的咖啡馆开了没有?
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/26/2006
希望不要改版 我这样看的挺舒服 改了就不着来了! - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/27/2006
“教改的问题,主要是教员问题。”
吸引好的写手来咖啡馆是最主要的。大家不是因为咖啡馆
装璜漂亮而来,是因为里面有好货才来的。 - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/27/2006
谢谢大家,咖啡店是君子的家,是有圣灵庇护的,所以一直没有设立注册的手续,因为知道大家都是君子。
- Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/27/2006
俺到这里蹭吃蹭喝很久了,喜欢这里简约的风格,不改成不? - Re: 2006年咖啡店装修计划posted on 02/28/2006
玛雅 wrote:
谢谢大家,咖啡店是君子的家,是有圣灵庇护的,所以一直没有设立注册的手续,因为知道大家都是君子。
It's indeed lucky so far, but need hold your breath. "君子的家"? I don't know. All "君子s" gather around may not be a good fortune :))
- posted on 02/28/2006
呵呵,不是觉得气氛不对,也不是害怕讲话,只是不愿意套近乎瞎灌水罢了。
潜水就是来了解一下新的东西、新的观点。如果观点一致就对着屏幕点点头,如果观点大相径庭就撇撇嘴。
有共鸣才冒泡,有分歧才砸砖。但大多数时间无动于衷啦。;-)
玛雅 wrote:
既然大家都说不改,那就先不改了罢。今年因为不想写什么正经东西,而且想“权力下放”,最主要的是希望咖啡店能够更加兼容并蓄,特别是吸引更多20岁上下的年轻人来咖啡店聊天,并且想打破从前的一些戒律,更加轻松兼容。另外,我查了一下统计,来咖啡店潜水的人非常多,我在想他们为什么只潜水而不发言呢?是不是觉得气氛不对,害怕讲话呢?为此,我想开辟一个更加随心所欲的地盘,让大家有地方无拘无束。
时间无情,转眼在网上论坛胡混已经4、5年了,看看几个海外活跃的论坛,里面的话题、里面的人也渐渐老气横秋。思想需要氧气、需要青春的能量,我一直保持着跟少男少女们的交流,因为她们是思想的新鲜空气。
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