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www.chinamz.org
- posted on 02/26/2006
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ҳϣĸʼʱȺڵġ췴˶һ̶ϴй˻ԹѹȽijЩҲܲȱ߱˼쵼ˣǴ˵Ⱥ췴˶ʽϲûëģ˼Ҳûӳëʽʶ̬ơйҪǶԲĸйʷĿǰ̥Ļ̬֣ԳʲôеĸٷĸġĸĿ顣
ʵϣʮϯŷȫġĻ϶ëʽʶ̬Ŀڡ - Re: 一篇批判自立的文章,恭请99,七格,默克,象罔公议之,呵呵!posted on 02/27/2006
еúּܲʷŷ - Re: 我用我的脚投票posted on 02/28/2006
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- posted on 02/28/2006
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- posted on 02/28/2006
The whole debate seems "too much fuss about nothing" unless I misread some hidden agenda or intention of the authors. One of them already admits: ôĻʲôĻֻһʷʱڵơThat is correct. But then he wrote: ĸԷֽΪٷĸ͡ĸ˵ڣĵйġĸصĺ壬ٷĸɶΪйٷǶʷʱУǶʷʱСĸΪĸɶΪǶʷʱзӡȺжHow ridiculous is that? That means we can call any period in history "the official XX period" and "people's XX period". Saying that means saying nothing. Imagine this: "The official postwar period" and "people's postwar period", "the official anti-terrorists war" and "people's anti-terrorists war", and this can go on forever. Pure nonsense.
Personally, I do not like zili's writing style in that article of his, for the same reason xw has already mentioned. The other author criticized it as . But it is him who used such in his book title "Books on People's Cultural Revolution". It is the same mistake, only more obvious. It serves no other or better purpose than simply trying to make a selling point for his book. I wonder if we all fell in his trap and already gave him too much attention than he deserves.
As for some positive side or elements during a dark period in history, we surely should acknowledge it as part of the whole truth. It could be true that period was a "golden time" for a few and "days with sunshine" for a few others. But we still should call the period a dark period. Even Chinese government calls that period a disaster. Even though some kind of justice were done during some months in "Cultural Revolution"and some might have felt great that they could bully their nasty boss who used to bully them before, it is still a disaterous period in human history. While it is legitimate to document those elements where some positive effects may have been achieved, the phrase "People's Cultural Revolution" is inaccurate, unnecessary, misleading, and totally confusing. It's nothing but a tricky way to call for perhaps undeserved attention, and quite an example of the that shouldn't be used at all even according to the person who used this phrase in his book title. What a paradox and nonsense!
- posted on 02/28/2006
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ڼжϣ510йȻһΣȨȹΣͻ̨ǰһֱΪȨһתΣΨһ̨սһս±̬Ȩ͵ȡĿתΣƺֹսһ;пܾǽαƽĻĸ˶зϴơı۵ϿȻǡٴĸһһԤ
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ˣԸּ֣ҲԸַѧ淶ĸѧҪѧҲУǻȹ֤һأѧңûһأôѧùɡ - posted on 03/02/2006
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Ȩ˵˵Ҫ𣬲ȻëĸˡǡĸҲһ1949ĺϷԡйˡDZڡ - posted on 03/02/2006
I comletely agree with zili in his last comments. The writing style is also very clear and very straightforward. In terms of content and logic, it is correct too. I still fail to understand the importance of the opposite argument. That Mr. Liu mentioned in his article that someone else created the term "People's Cultural Revolution" and he didn't want to use it at first, but now because no one is paying attention to their arguemnt, he decided to use the phrase now. To me, that is simply crying for attention. We should not give him the attention he doesn't deserve. Besides, argument over terms or phrases is a bad habit in Chinese culture. Even among Red Guards there was once the debate over "Maoist Red Guards" or "Mao Zedong Thought Red Guards". I hope we do not fall in the same trap again.
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