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  鍗氬厠锛嶏紞鐖卞皵鍏拌瘲浜鸿瘲姝屾湕璇典細

  搴熷悕 posted on 04/19/2007
  星期三（四月18日）晚，应《国家地理》杂志总部工作的朋友之邀，到她那里的礼堂听爱尔兰诗人的诗歌朗诵会。去了三位著名的爱尔兰诗人，Michael Longley, Ciaran Carson, and Paul Muldoon,可惜我也希望见到的女诗人Medbh McGuckian因为身体不适，留在爱尔兰没有来。
  
  进入礼堂，怎么说呢，有些意外，一两千人的大礼堂，竟然几乎座无虚席，还有BBC等媒体在采访。
  
  Ciaran Carson 手拿短小的牧笛，演奏了一首优美的曲子作为开场白。然后开始说话，他竟然是结巴，而且结巴得很厉害。但朗读他的诗的时候，完全不结巴了，他的诗是真是非常非常powerful，而且他朗诵的时候不看观众，在自言自语，似乎话剧中的独白或者天主徒的 confession, 是三个人的诗中最有感染力的，赢得掌声最多，他则看了不下十次表，深怕占用了别的诗人的朗诵时间。
  
  Paul Muldoon是播音员出身，现在转到美国当教授，人又年轻，所以朗诵技巧很好，但诗歌过于后现代，内容诙谐风趣，观众却没有太多共鸣。
  
  Longley 长得跟海明威老爸像兄弟，也是白髯飘飘。他一首有关屠杀和爱的诗引起共鸣：
  
  Kiss the hand of the killer
  even he has just killed your son
  
  华盛顿最近阴霾密布，时常淫雨连绵，那个弗吉尼亚理工学院的悲剧更是给这个春天蒙上挥之难去的阴郁。在这个时候，这个貌似海明威老爸的诗歌给在座的人感动和温暖，我看到观众中有人流泪。
  
  最后longley 以一首献给结缡三十六年老妻的爱情诗结尾（他的妻子是诗歌评论家），将诗歌晚会的气氛推向高潮。
  大家如果有兴趣，google 他们的名字，听他们朗诵的录音。
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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  #1 feiming posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Fear
  Ciaran Carson
  
  I fear the vast dimensions of eternity.
  I fear the gap between the platform and the train.
  I fear the onset of a murderous campaign.
  1 fear the palpitations caused by too much tea.
  
  I fear the drawn pistol of a rapparee.
  I fear the books will not survive the acid rain.
  I fear the ruler and the blackboard and the cane.
  I fear the Jabberwock, whatever it might be.
  
  I fear the bad decisions of a referee.
  I fear the only recourse is to plead insane.
  I fear the implications of a lawyer's fee.
  
  I fear the gremlins that have colonized my brain.
  I fear to read the small print of the guarantee.
  And what else do I fear? Let me begin again.
  
  
  
  
  
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  #2 xw posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  嗯，其实爱尔兰人的歌谣传统很好的。
  
  一个能歌善舞的民族。
  
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  #3 Ruozhi posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  废名在DC很幸运, 有这么多国际活动.
  
  前不久看过一出戏, The Play Boy of the western world, 说Gaelic, 一下子又回到什么也听不懂的时代. 适应了一会儿好一点. 爱尔兰, 丰富的文学传统. 有一个文学朋友离开那儿回美国求发展就是因为那儿诗人太多, 太棒.
  
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  #4 搴熷悕 posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  若之来DC 玩玩吧，最近这里有诗歌节和国际电影节，各种读书俱乐部丛生，还有樱花儿，至于杀手也没有了：）-
  you will love it here and want to settle down
  
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  #5 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  I want to go DC too :)
  
  
  

  废名 wrote:
  若之来DC 玩玩吧，最近这里有诗歌节和国际电影节，各种读书俱乐部丛生，还有樱花儿，至于杀手也没有了：）-
  you will love it here and want to settle down
  
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  #6 Ruozhi posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  哎，真正请你去玩的人才是朋友。:-)
  
  你给我安排几个reading, 我就去。
  
  
  

  废名 wrote:
  若之来DC 玩玩吧，最近这里有诗歌节和国际电影节，各种读书俱乐部丛生，还有樱花儿，至于杀手也没有了：）-
  you will love it here and want to settle down
  
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  #7 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  上几首爱尔兰的民歌：
  
  Ailein Duinn
  
  How sorrowful I am
  Early in the morning rising
  
  Chorus (after each verse):
  Ò hì, I would go with you
  Hì ri bhò hò ru bhì
  Hì ri bhò hò rinn o ho
  Brown-haired Alan, ò hì, I would go with you
  
  If your pillow is the sand
  If your bed is the seaweed
  
  If the fish are your bright candles
  If the seals are your watchmen
  
  I'd drink, though all abhor it
  Of your heart's blood after your drowning
  
  
  
  
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  #8 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  I Dreamt I Dwelt In Marble Halls
  
  I dreamt that I dwelt in marble halls
  With vassals and serfs at my side
  And of all who assembled within those walls
  That I was the hope and the pride
  I had riches to great to count, could boast
  Of a high ancestral name
  But I also dreamt, which pleased me most
  That you loved me still the same
  That you loved me, you loved me still the same
  That you loved me, you loved me still the same
  
  I dreamt that suitors sought my hand
  That knights upon bended knee
  And with words no maiden's heart could withstand
  They pledged their faith to me
  And I dreamt that one of that noble host
  Came forth my hand to claim
  But I also dreamt which charmed me most
  That you loved me still the same
  That you loved me, you loved me still the same
  That you loved me, you loved me still the same
  
  
  
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  #9 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Solveig's Song
  
  The winter may pass and the spring disappear
  And the spring disappear
  The summer, too, will vanish and then the year
  And then the year
  But this I know for certain, that you'll come back again
  That you'll come back again
  And even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  
  Yes, even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  
  
  
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  #10 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Since You And I Were True
  
  We might as well lie down, love
  Lie down and close our eyes
  We might as well go walking
  In the country of the blind
  The long grass is grown
  And all the birds flown
  To their homes away in the blue
  And nothing's left the same
  The whole world is changed
  Since you and I were true
  
  And how can a story be ended
  When it didn't hardly begin?
  How can my glass be so empty
  When it's filled up to the brim?
  And it wasn't always so
  It didn't always go
  We had something better to do
  And it didn't always rain
  Every single day
  When you and I were true
  
  In a country where we are headed, love
  There is nothing but rocks and stones
  No friendly plant or animal
  No angel to guide you home
  Until some day you'll find
  In the country of the blind
  Some wonder just like you
  And the singing of a bird
  That nobody has heard
  Since you and I were true
  
  We might as well lie down, love
  Lie down and close our eyes
  We might as well go walking
  In the country of the blind
  The long grass is grown
  And all the birds flown
  To their homes away in the blue
  And nothing's left the same
  The whole world is changed
  Since you and I were true
  
  
  
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  #11 guanzhong posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Are you sure this is really Irish? It is in Peer Gynt by Grieg, based on Ibsen's play, both Norwegian. In any case, this song is one of my most favorite pieces of music ever.
  
  

  July wrote:
  Solveig's Song
  The winter may pass and the spring disappear
  And the spring disappear
  The summer, too, will vanish and then the year
  And then the year
  But this I know for certain, that you'll come back again
  That you'll come back again
  And even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  Yes, even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  
  
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  #12 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  I am not too sure, but it is sang by Irish singer Meav and people consider it is a Celtic trandition song.
  
  
  
  

  guanzhong wrote:
  Are you sure this is really Irish? It is in Peer Gynt by Grieg, based on Ibsen's play, both Norwegian. In any case, this song is one of my most favorite pieces of music ever.
  

  July wrote:
  Solveig's Song
  The winter may pass and the spring disappear
  And the spring disappear
  The summer, too, will vanish and then the year
  And then the year
  But this I know for certain, that you'll come back again
  That you'll come back again
  And even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  Yes, even as I promised, you'll find me waiting then
  You'll find me waiting then
  
  
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  #13 guanzhong posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Then I have to assume it is Ibsen's creation, unless he was inspired by somebody Irish.
  In any case, do you know this song? It is THE most beautiful song in my mind. I am sure you will love it. :-)
  
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  #14 July posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  You should thank me very much :)
  
  Have u heard Meav singing this song?
  
  
  

  guanzhong wrote:
  Then I have to assume it is Ibsen's creation, unless he was inspired by somebody Irish.
  In any case, do you know this song? It is THE most beautiful song in my mind.
  
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  #15 guanzhong posted on 04/20/2007
  
  
  Why? I have known this song for many years. But I still thank you for sharing! :-)
  
  

  July wrote:
  You should thank me very much :)
  Have u heard Meav singing this song?
  

  guanzhong wrote:
  Then I have to assume it is Ibsen's creation, unless he was inspired by somebody Irish.
  In any case, do you know this song? It is THE most beautiful song in my mind.
  
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  #16 WOA posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  羡慕ing, 废名身在如诗如画中，想必周围如花似玉的也不少吧？ 我也是在参加过一次朗诵会后，有点悟出“看诗”与“读诗”的区别，不过那也是N年前的历史，现在身处文化沙漠中苦行。
  
  话又说回来，尽管比较喜欢DC，还是不愿去settle down。
  
  
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  #17 feiming posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  woa好久没有现身，想煞洒家:)但愿一切都好！可能春天来了，老草根都发芽了：）也欢迎你有空来，帮你解决一个星期的住处没有问题，你要找别的，就看你的造化了。
  
  曾经住过美国中西部的青纱帐，也曾经在纽约的 village 住过，但相对还是喜欢dc，对我来说，一个太静，一个太闹， 所以还是DC一带适合我。
  
  今天这里阳光很好，70度左右，在院中割草弄花，很是开心，今夜可能会去出海钓鱼，谢谢跟帖，如回帖子不及时，先拱手谢罪了。
  
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  #18 Ruozhi posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  我的住处是不用操心的, 去找adagio, 再不济, 厚着脸皮去找笨笨. :-)
  
  昨晚给我的合作者打电话, 问他认不认识这里的三个诗人, 他说都认识, Ciaran Carson还在他家住过一晚. 然后忿忿不平地说, DC对爱尔兰诗人很感兴趣, 对本土的不感兴趣. 一副摘不到葡萄嫌它酸的口吻. :-) 我说没关系, 我有个朋友在DC, 可以给你我安排reading, 他说that's great, let's go. 我说别激动, DC说不定居大不易. :-)
  
  各位有来圣路易斯, 我可以给安排reading. 有一段时间, 这里谣言四起, 说是美国的文学中心从纽约转到了圣路易斯. 其实, 这个也没什么太奇怪, 这里是艾略特, 威廉姆田纳西的故乡, 马克吐温, 福克纳, 海明威的故乡也不远. 顺着密西西比河往新奥尔良开, 可以追寻Huckleberry finn的足迹. 有一天, 我会开车遍访这些喜爱的作家的故居.
  
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  #19 July posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  I'll go with you :)
  
  手边正是一本《The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn》:)
  
  
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  我的住处是不用操心的, 去找adagio, 再不济, 厚着脸皮去找笨笨. :-)
  各位有来圣路易斯, 我可以给安排reading. 有一段时间, 这里谣言四起, 说是美国的文学中心从纽约转到了圣路易斯. 其实, 这个也没什么太奇怪, 这里是艾略特, 威廉姆田纳西的故乡, 马克吐温, 福克纳, 海明威的故乡也不远. 顺着密西西比河往新奥尔良开, 可以追寻Huckleberry finn的足迹. 有一天, 我会开车遍访这些喜爱的作家的故居.
  
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  #20 Ruozhi posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  Deal! You'll be in charge of photographing, and writing too. :-)
  

  July wrote:
  I'll go with you :)
  手边正是一本《The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn》:)
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  我的住处是不用操心的, 去找adagio, 再不济, 厚着脸皮去找笨笨. :-)
  各位有来圣路易斯, 我可以给安排reading. 有一段时间, 这里谣言四起, 说是美国的文学中心从纽约转到了圣路易斯. 其实, 这个也没什么太奇怪, 这里是艾略特, 威廉姆田纳西的故乡, 马克吐温, 福克纳, 海明威的故乡也不远. 顺着密西西比河往新奥尔良开, 可以追寻Huckleberry finn的足迹. 有一天, 我会开车遍访这些喜爱的作家的故居.
  
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  #21 July posted on 04/21/2007
  
  
  
  海明威的故乡可在芝加哥附近的郊区，离我家也就三十分钟啊，你来不来？
  
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  Deal! You'll be in charge of photographing, and writing too. :-)
  

  July wrote:
  I'll go with you :)
  手边正是一本《The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn》:)
  

  
  
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  #22 Ruozhi posted on 04/22/2007
  
  
  当然去了. 原来他离你比离我还近. 你的E?
  
  

  July wrote:
  海明威的故乡可在芝加哥附近的郊区，离我家也就三十分钟啊，你来不来？
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  Deal! You'll be in charge of photographing, and writing too. :-)
  

  July wrote:
  I'll go with you :)
  手边正是一本《The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn》:)
  

  
  
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  #23 July posted on 04/22/2007
  
  
  julyx_2006@hotmail.com
  
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  当然去了. 原来他离你比离我还近. 你的E?
  

  July wrote:
  海明威的故乡可在芝加哥附近的郊区，离我家也就三十分钟啊，你来不来？
  

  Ruozhi wrote:
  Deal! You'll be in charge of photographing, and writing too. :-)
  

  July wrote:
  I'll go with you :)
  手边正是一本《The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn》:)
  

  
  

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