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注注 on 11/04/2004. adagio commented once.
俺编个笑话轻松下气氛 -
听说小布同志荣获连任,世界各地“智力被挑战”的团体和个人无不欢欣鼓舞,远在中国的李鹏同志感慨地说:为啥俺没生在美国呢?
(严正声明:本笑话不含任何政治意味,唯一目的是气儿啊普此咖啡馆的老板娘,不必当真)

Posted by
thesunlover on 11/03/2004. adagio commented once.
真是个老爱(“老”兼作形容词和副词)
看来你从玛雅那里获得了无尽的激情源泉,何不仿歌德写首玛雅温泉的哀歌?:)
(玩笑玩笑)
希望今晚睡前知道小布的死活。TNND, 如果他再选上,近年来美国人的脑重与体重之比将创历史新低。

Posted by
华 on 11/02/2004. adagio commented 17 times.
Sunlover has a point.
Bush's simplistic world view, especially on the issues of Iraq and Middle East, is in itself terrifying, too bad the world is not running like what the Neo-cons wish it to be. Too bad not enough Americans can see this. It seems this nation is now overwhelmed by the blind trust in Bush sprung from its orthodox faith.
To Sieg - the way I see it, Kerry, if elected, will definitely continue rebuilding Afghanistan and Iraq, but with more international support for sure.

Posted by
adagio on 11/02/2004. adagio commented once.
Glad to know someone else heard about her and likes her too.
She is a thinker. So few nowadays among woman writers in China.

Posted by
adagio on 11/02/2004. adagio commented once.
Thanks so much, a reader. It must have cost you quite some trouble.
I am posting the poem here for future read -
II - Elegy
When man had ceased to utter his lament,
A god then let me tell my tale of sorrow.
WHAT hope of once more meeting is there now
In the still-closed blossoms of this day?
Both heaven and hell thrown open seest thou;
What wav'ring thoughts within the bosom play
No longer doubt! Descending from the sky,
She lifts thee in her arms to realms on high.
And thus thou into

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/28/2004. adagio commented once.
老江这篇是不错。我昨天在CND评论过,觉得有一处需要补充一下。文中“有爱有情”所举范例,萨特和波伏瓦之间的爱,在我看来是一种精神通戚,既弗洛姆说的成熟的爱情,跟老江后来谈的“有爱无情”中夫妻的爱不同,后者更是一种亲情和关爱。不懂老江怎么皆笼统冠之以“爱”而不加区别?两者当然都是爱,却是很不同的爱。
弗洛姆这段话真是不错,大学时读“爱的艺术”肯定看到过,却未必能留下印象,年轻时是不懂爱情的 -
弗洛姆则认为世界上有成熟的爱情:“爱情是在保留自己完整性和独立性的条件下,也就是保持自己个性的条件下与他人合二为一,

Posted by
xw on 10/26/2004. adagio commented 4 times.
近来的确常看到评述介绍德里达的文章,这期“经济学家”杂志也有篇悼念文章,虽然称德为当代思想界的顶峰人物,言语间却时有揶揄。以英国佬的理性和实证思维传统,对德里达这样的“捣蛋分子”大概是很难认同的。:)
我对自己是否能看懂德里达的文字没有信心,但看看别人对他的评述,不管是赞扬还是批评他的,也能从侧面了解不少。这篇生平综述写得不错,废话少,言语顺畅。题目尤其取得好:我很难对一致性感到激动。这句话就能让人激动一会儿呢。:)
南方周末水准不低。

Posted by
thesunlover on 10/25/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
太阳情人这首我读后有些惊讶,因为跟他以前写的很不一样,可以说是一个突破,让人欣喜。以前他那些华丽词藻的堆砌实在让人不敢恭维。这首有些内在的真实的感受了。以前如响雷,现在是心雨。不错。
诗若不能以意象和音韵之美感染人,至少也得朴素,简洁,真挚。May I say Sunlover is on the right track now?
我自认是不吝赞美的,看到好的我自然会说。这里的人的文字和言谈,我赞过的不少,女士中有玛雅,欣欣,曼陀罗,华,阿姗,木棉,小笨,Alexandra(排名不分先后),男士中有自立,xw, 七格,奇平,默克,廖康,WOA(排名不分先后,若有

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/22/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
哈哈,陀老的确一副苦大仇深的模样。

Posted by
alexandra on 10/22/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
这么凑巧!今早天阴寒,开车经过一片笼着秋色红黄的树林,蓦然就想到了林,还有梁,徐,金这三人。这四个人都了不起啊。一般人于情皆陷之而不拔,恼人恼己,甚或害人害己,唯这四人能超脱情之上,在他们之间成就了一种灵性的真挚的友谊,这种心灵的纯净交谊世间少见。
所以这四人的精神高度凡夫俗妇是望之莫及的。中国文人中向来龌龊东西居多,我为这四个品性高洁的人惊喜。
Alexandra文章写得不错。就是太纤细哀婉了些。林其实是个坚强自立的女人,非一般哼哼唧唧顾影自怜的才女可比。

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/22/2004. adagio commented once.
别的我不知道,这点我是有体会的:无论读诗或写诗,我必诵读一遍,若读来不美,不上口,不让人想再读一遍,我就难以认为它是好诗。韵,节奏感,都是诗歌的要素。现代诗这些都放弃了。我只能感到遗憾。
据说人类最初始的语言就是诗歌,它是直接脱口而出的情感抒发,自然有韵,有节奏。远古时代的史诗最初也并无文字记载,都是靠几代人口头传诵下来的。文字,写在纸上是死的,唱诵出来,说出来的才是活的。古时圣哲苏格拉底和现代的诗哲海德格尔等,不喜著述,更愿口传其思想,大概也有这个道理。

Posted by
洛丽塔二世 on 10/21/2004. adagio commented once.
If your marriage is an enjoyment, you are lucky by getting married.
Otherwise treat it as your life ordeal through which you become a better person, you are still lucky by getting married.
So, go marriage! :)

Posted by
maya on 10/21/2004. adagio commented 3 times.
谢谢太阳情人贴的系列文章,看得眼都花了,觉得还是西川的两篇纪念耐看些。不过短短数天,依次为两位生前好友写悼文,还有比这更难过的事吗?
老兄以后装载文章,能否分贴载?全部集中在一个帖子,让人目不暇给。
说到海子的诗,真正在世间流传的也就那么几首,一般读者对他大部分的诗还是挺隔阂的。就在几天前我还拿起他的诗集浏览了一遍,有些地方感觉和太阳情人的一样,但也随处见到金子闪光,让人叹服。怎么说呢?短短几年,有如此丰富的诗作,有如此众多卓越的句子,古今诗人中并不多见。海子,还有骆一禾,真是用生命来写诗的!他们是那个

Posted by
bb on 10/19/2004. adagio commented once.
谢谢自立转贴。我粗略浏览了一遍,摘了下面有印象的几段 -
叔本華在他的文學論中曾表示,思想並非任意隨人“自由”作的:「思想如同火,必須被風激動而後能照耀。」另一個意像則是「思想從外面受孕,然後生子。」在叔本華的想法中,「就是偉大的思想家也不能夠什麼時候都思想」,思想出現時,好像是「我們所愛婦人來到我們的眼前」,而我們「不能夠隨意召喚它,必須等它自己來」
尼采因此提出,思想的範疇並非真偽,而是高貴、低賤,高、低的決定其實來自於作用於思想的外在力量的性質 (Nph. p.119)。由此,思想的負面亦非錯誤,而是愚昧 (la b

Posted by
steve on 10/19/2004. adagio commented once.
Steve的文章以前在CND读过,一直有印象,记得当时还评过,并贴过一首自己的旧诗,这里再贴一遍向作者致意 -
Chicago Impression
- over the giant fountain by the lake
As the dancing spring vanished,
The fair city was ready to retire.
The pale street lights flashed,
Glimmering like timid dozy fire.
Dark wrapped the lake till morn,
Immersed, I heard its breathing -
A dream perished, another reborn,
The waves alive in rising 'n falling.
Along the wondrous lakeshore,
Chicago, stretch your longi

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/19/2004. adagio commented once.
这篇文章不错,如今作者不少话都说不清楚,遑论说出些清澈的见解。
廖伟棠。OK,下回他的文章还会看。

Posted by
wenzhai on 10/18/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
好文章。童年时的暴戾记忆的确会给人的一生刻下烙印。
我还在娘肚子里时,家住的楼房顶层是造反派的司令部,常常通宵达旦和对面楼房顶层的保皇派打仗,高音喇叭的刺耳呼啸不算,还有猛烈的机关枪对着扫射,TNND, 父母大学毕业时为了分配在一起,去了这么个鬼地方支边。因为这种胎教,我出生时就爱烦躁不安,好哭,好皱眉头。我妈便把我脾气坏归结于当年机关枪和高音喇叭的胎教,我想她对文革的痛恨多半是出于这个原因。:)

Posted by
bb on 10/18/2004. adagio commented 3 times.
这种发烧友台湾也有好多。算是折腾钱的一种方式。俺觉得他们该称音响迷,不是音乐迷。
我自己觉得听音乐耳机最好,把外面世界整个挡住,身心与音乐完全融在一起,自在。上班听最好。现在我在听门德尔松的overtures, The Fair Melusina, A Midsummer Night's Dream, Calm Sea and Prosperous Voyage, etc, so enjoyable.

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/15/2004. adagio commented once.
现实生活和艺术创造是两个世界,当然不能有同一尺度。不过,若有某一呆傻青年读了洛丽塔,也学着去恋一个十二岁小女孩,就意味着艺术作品对现实产生了误导。:)然而,这不是纳博科夫的错,是该青年判断力失了误。
以前一直想不通为何纳博科夫要写这么个题材,看了欣欣文才知道和他的恋蝶有关系。好文章,谢谢。

Posted by
promise on 10/14/2004. adagio commented 8 times.
疯子,家庭照片是女人间传递的,你要是个姐妹,我也寄给你。:)

Posted by
xw on 10/14/2004. adagio commented once.
赋格这篇茫崖记不错。但对文明的反思是否草率了些?文明还不光是工程师式的实用主义这种技术文明,它更是insititutional层面上的。
好奇,五千年前的摩亨达佐罗有无caste制度?恕我对古印度文明的无知,这方面有大量的功课要补。
[我把李维史陀的“织毯”比喻看做卡尔维诺的“地毯”想象的反面。“织毯”描绘了一幅人类文明不断熵增的前景,“地毯”则指向一切形式的抽象本原。这两种画面是同样可怖的,无论是最初设计了“地毯”的那只手,还是不停缀补着“织毯”的无数只粗糙的手,它们从先验的或者实践的角度不约而同地否定了文明的意义。]

Posted by
bb on 10/13/2004. adagio commented 4 times.
自立贴的文章我一般都是读的,这篇也会读,但得等有时间细细读,慢慢消化。才能发言。

Posted by
七格 on 10/13/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
七格好。常来。(当然这话不该我说。老板娘呢?)
认识伟光正也不是一天两天了,生什么气?
网上查了一下,德里达是10月8日去世的。我们这边都不知。
结构和解构常把人弄糊涂,据我所知,文中所列五位,福柯是解构,列维·斯特劳斯是结构,其他俩位不清楚。结构主义到后来就变解构了,挺有意思的。
赶着撤。再聊。

Posted by
八十一子 on 10/12/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
谢谢这些照片,怎么都是阴天?觉得希腊的天空该永远是湛蓝的。
这是我幼时就向往的地方,希望等我去时还有那份清澈。

Posted by
xw on 10/12/2004. adagio commented once.
Schiller said something about the theater -
The stage is the common channel through which the light of wisdom streams down from the thoughtful, better part of society, spreading thence in mild beams throughout the entire state. Truer ideas, more refined precepts, purified emotions then flow into the veins of the population; the clouds of barbarism and dark superstition disperse; night yields to victorious light.

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/12/2004. adagio commented once.
looking forward to more.

Posted by
xw on 10/11/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
For those who are really interested in reading or writing poetry, I suggest a great read - Emerson's essay The Poet. You can find it online. Here's the link -
http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/poettext.html
Recently I also read Wallace Stevens' essay The Figure of the Youth as Virile Poet, one thing I noticed of this modern poet is that, he basically holds a same view on poetry as Emerson, that is, a poet sees and reveals the truth, like light, he illuminates the world

Posted by
WOA on 10/08/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
我说,诗若能这样被肢解分析,就失了诗的味道了。好诗是一个整体,难说具体用了什么比喻方式意象手法,它给人留下的印象是诗人为达到美作出的努力,却又不留一点努力的痕迹。
WOA这首痕迹感强了点,我喜欢前面那首“沉船”,虽然略微也有点雕琢气,但意象表达之干净冷彻,让人惊喜。

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/05/2004. adagio commented 2 times.
我看“爱”这个东西和“天堂”“永生”“平等”“正义”等等美妙的概念一样,蛊惑了无数男女,弱智的,以及不那么弱智的。
然而,人类若没有对“爱”的想象力,人生将是如何单调乏味,如同一条单薄的直线无奈地走下去,生是起点,死是终点(当然,信仰永生的同志情况会更坏点 - 这条线没有终点)。理论上说,这条线越短越好,最好是短到仅剩一个点,最最好是这个点也可以忽略不计 - 那就是我一再宣扬的谬论:世间至福是不出生。当然,这话等于白说。
因为有了对爱的想象力,人生这条无聊冗长的直线就幻化成了各种曼妙多姿的曲线,成了山峦的温柔

Posted by
玛雅 on 10/05/2004. adagio commented 3 times.
Ah San, this sentence needs a haircut - 兰舟不相信幸福。:)

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